Inter's Financial Situation

[junior55]

We can't even form a proper starting eleven with that shit LOL

My question is that could we include new players in the list, given that we get the player(s) after we sell our youths?

If that youth was not part of the european lilst of 2016 it adds nothing towards settlement agreement. So no you can't include a new player due to it.

Selling youth though is important to comply to FFP on the other hand.

 

[Akif]

If that youth was not part of the european lilst of 2016 it adds nothing towards settlement agreement. So no you can't include a new player due to it.

Selling youth though is important to comply to FFP on the other hand.

Thanks Mate. I'm trying to be realistic here. If we can manage to pass the group stages of CL next season, it would be huge positive for me.

 

[PHM1605]

If that youth was not part of the european lilst of 2016 it adds nothing towards settlement agreement. So no you can't include a new player due to it.

Selling youth though is important to comply to FFP on the other hand.

So to summary, registering Skriniar alone (25m value) we have already used up the transfer income of Banega, Medel, Nagatomo,Ansaldi). Caprari transfer counterpart (15m) means nothing to us, as he was not in the 2016 list.

The squad list next year:
Tommaso BERNI
Marcelo BROZOVIC
Antonio CANDREVA
Eder CITADIN MARTINS
Danilo D'AMBROSIO
Samir HANDANOVIC
Mauro Emanuel ICARDI
Joao MIRANDA DE SOUZA FILHO
Ivan PERISIC
Andrea RANOCCHIA
Davide SANTON
Milan SKRINIAR

If we sell Candreva (for 15m), Eder (7m), and Rano (3m), we can register Vecino. The list becomes:
Tommaso BERNI
Marcelo BROZOVIC
Danilo D'AMBROSIO
Samir HANDANOVIC
Mauro Emanuel ICARDI
Joao MIRANDA DE SOUZA FILHO
Ivan PERISIC
Davide SANTON
Milan SKRINIAR
Matias VECINO

To comply with settlement agreement, we can't register Gags, let alone big signings like Radja, Chiesa.
On the other side, we have to sell all the best youths to comply FFP, to get 40m extra.
So the empty spots are filled with leftovers of our Primavera
PS: please correct me if I am wrong, I am confused too. Champions League next season is a joke for us if I understand correctly.

 

[JJM]

a competent club run by a competent mgmt should be competent enough to solve this problems...which word did I use the most here?!

 

[Kev9Inter]

Statement from the club

FC Internazionale Milano acknowledges the statement from UEFA today: The break-even requirement for 2016-2017 was achieved, the settlement agreement remains in force until June 2019. Squad limits of 22 players will remain in place for European competitions, in addition to the need to break with regard to the values of players bought and sold.

 

[ElDiego22]

If Spalletti had to choose who to drop, it has be players who done nothing last season. Valero, Candreva, and Santon should cover it.

 

[Devious]

This restriction is fucken stupid and unfair because there is a vast difference between the average prices of players two years ago and now. Two years ago a star defender would cost max 25-30m, now it's double that price, star FWs are 150-220m when the most expensive striker in the world costed around 95m max two years ago. Everything has doubled and prices now are insane.

There is also the asset values cost difference which they shouldn't have ignored agreeing to such terms. Say we take Icardi for instance, we bought him in 2013 for 13m, by 2016 his price might have increased a bit let's say 35m + say 25m yearly salary that year which equals approx = 60m.

This year Icardi's price + annual wage costs about 200m, that's about 140m difference. Why cant we take advantage of that difference as Icardi is considered a club's investment and a company asset? But in return we are obligated to bear that price+wage costs difference in deficit considering the overall players prices increase comparing to two years ago?

Whoever signed that arrangement is an idiot, unless he had to, bearing in mind how fucked we were the time he agreed to these terms. UEFA can suck my dick putting such incapacitate terms.

 

[bolo]

It is in this context that the term amortization must be read as Calcio E Finanza explains further “Inter had the obligation to reduce the amortization, according to their agreement with UEFA: however, the numerous player signings of the past few seasons like Joao Mario and Gabigol, did not allow the club to meet these obligations, in that not only have the amortizations not decreased but have instead increased.”

Furthermore, Inter are forced to maintain a financial balance between the sum spent on the transfer market and money received for selling players. As reported widely previously, Inter are currently working hard on selling a host of Primavera players before June 30th whom they together with the sales of Nagatomo, Kondogbia and Murillo are aiming to create a balance between the sum spent on signed players and the sum received on players sold so that next year, June 2019, when UEFA looks at Inter’s balance sheet for this year, June 3oth 2018, they will see that not only will Inter have broken even (probably made a profit) but that they will have raised revenue in terms of players sold which exceed €40 million. If Inter manage to do this they will be allowed to exit the settlement regime for the season 2019/2020.

In practice, this means that Inter’s penalty will be to be limited to calling up 22 players to be included in the so called A list of the team’s Champions League list with the A list being players that are not homegrown or raised at Inter but players the club has signed.

Furthermore, with the introduction of FFP 2.0 that UEFA has set forth, the new rules allow for UEFA to respond much faster to the financial statements as opposed to the 12 month period it takes for them to respond today.

So in conclusion today’s ruling means:

1) The ruling is based on financial report handed in to UEFA on June 30th 2017,

2) Inter managed to reach the target of breaking even 12 months ago and will do so this year (maybe even reporting profit for the first time ever),

3) There is no transfer ban in place for Inter,

4) No points deduction in domestic or international tournaments,

5) No fines allocated,

6) No disqualification from UEFA tournaments,

7) A slight reduction to the number of A List registered players (22 players allowed according to Calcio E Finanza).

8) Inter can still register new signings to play in the Champions League.

9) Inter have plenty of assets to make money off of such as Joao Mario, Eder, Kondogbia, Murillo, Biabiany, Nagatomo as well as a plethora of Primavera players who Inter are selling off with buy-back clauses inserted in every contract should these players bloom out to superstars.

this is nothing new for Inter as its management has known for a long time that this was going to be the decision of UEFA.

“And for the balancing budget situation agreed in settlement agreement, Inter will resolve it by June 30th and so there are no problems on this front. For the transfer market, nothing changes because Inter are well aware of this situation and have been for a long time

so no need to panic eh?

 

[ElDiego22]

This restriction is fucken stupid and unfair because there is a vast difference between the average prices of players two years ago and now. Two years ago a star defender would cost max 25-30m, now it's double that price, star FWs are 150-220m when the most expensive striker in the world costed around 95m max two years ago. Everything has doubled and prices now are insane.

There is also the asset values cost difference which they shouldn't have ignored agreeing to such terms. Say we take Icardi for instance, we bought him in 2013 for 13m, by 2016 his price might have increased a bit let's say 35m + say 25m yearly salary that year which equals approx = 60m.

This year Icardi's price + annual wage costs about 200m, that's about 140m difference. Why cant we take advantage of that difference as Icardi is considered a club's investment and a company asset? But in return we are obligated to bear that price+wage costs difference in deficit considering the overall players prices increase comparing to two years ago?

Whoever signed that arrangement is an idiot, unless he had to bearing in mind hiw fucked we were the time he agreed to these terms. UEFA can suck my dick putting such incapacitate terms.

 

[.h.]

Dont forget, though, De Vrij, Asamoah, are bosman signings for one...

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah I don't think the list back in 2016 is relevant in the sense that we should be making money out of those players in that list. It's generally just making money out of player sales. So Banega, Murillo, Kondogbia and possibly JM, Eder, Nagatomo + all the youth we've already sold and will be selling. But all these sales must equal the prices paid for the new players to that 2016 list. So Skriniar + Vecino + all the other new acquisitions we pay something for (= not De Vrij, Asamoah).

That's how I understand this.

 

[.h.]

I hope your interpretation is right, but it is ambiguous.

 

[Maslany]

So we are not completely fucked? God bless us

 

[.h.]

eiither way i strongly suspect the registration list is who we can register for the CL - much like a couple years ago for the EL.

Expect us to reinforce the squad as we need for the league, which is the crucial thing. We're in the group stages, and tbh, getting out of the group stages owuld be a great success for us already. The year after is where we need to really go for it

 

[ElDiego22]

Goddamn UEFA using last season's results to pass bullshit judgement. Couldn't they waited until end of the June for this year's results?

Fuck JM and Gabigol for being shit and driving hard down their values. No wait, FUCK KIA!!!!!!!!!!

 

[M.Adnan]

LISTA A

Tommaso BERNI
Marcelo BROZOVIC
Antonio CANDREVA
Eder CITADIN MARTINS
Danilo D'AMBROSIO
Samir HANDANOVIC
Mauro Emanuel ICARDI
Joao MIRANDA DE SOUZA FILHO
Ivan PERISIC
Andrea RANOCCHIA
Davide SANTON

LISTA B

Loris ZONTA
Michele DI GREGORIO
Axel BAKAYOKO
Ionut Andrei RADU
Andrea PINAMONTI
Assane Demoya GNOUKOURI (dal 18.09.2016)

NEW PLAYERS

De Vrij
Asamoah

After I've edited some players to match what I think is our current situation, this is pretty much what we're left with for the upcoming CL. Maybe we can add one new important purchased player like Skriniar, Vecino or Gagliardini, and I don't think that we'll add Skriniar as a priority since we're already covered in defense with De Vrij.

As I understand, the only way we can get out of this and register a complete CL squad is by selling Icardi for his release clause price. The rest of the player in the list won't cover the expenses even if they have buyers.

I also think this is why keeping players like Santon, for example, is an absolute necessity. We don't have any LB besides free agent Asamoah. No Nagatomo, no Dalbert and no new purchased LB can be added. We can't even count D'Ambrosio on the left side because we don't have any RBs besides him either.

 

[junior55]

So to summary, registering Skriniar alone (25m value) we have already used up the transfer income of Banega, Medel, Nagatomo,Ansaldi). Caprari transfer counterpart (15m) means nothing to us, as he was not in the 2016 list.

Not correct ,amortization cost is calculated.
So....

Skriniar 23M + 3M year (lets say) for 4 years = 35/ 4 ~ 9M per year , so Skriniar would cost 9M in this list --> -9M
Banega : 0M +4M*4 years = 4M per year , so Banega costed 4M that year --> +4M
Medel : 8M +2M*3year = ~5M per year , so Medel costed 5M that year --> +5M

and so on for Naga, Murillo , Palacio , Ansaldi etc...

That is why extending Candreva, Miranda , Santon this year as heard around would decrease their cost in this years european list

 

[.h.]

We dont know that for sure, tbh.

Or, you may, but I dont.

 

[Akif]

Let's wait until 30th of June. If we manage to gather the required capital gains to compensate the amortization deficits, we will be fine.

If not, let's hope our CL season will not be embarrassing

 

[Kakaroto]

Just sell Icardi for 100+ million comply with these bitches and get out of this damn agreement.