Inter's Financial Situation

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This is fucking stupid why does UEFA care about amortization costs when we are breaking even?
Also this explains why we prefer to sell our young players in stead of our stars for a profit. Most of our big players (Icardi Handa Perisic) are carried at a low book value and while their sale would bring an immediate profit replacing them with an adequate player would increase our amortization costs.

Anyways this is a though one since we need to get rid of players with high book value that are not preforming(ie where we dont need to find a replacement), ofcourse gabiG and J mario come to mind only problem here is that we cannot sell them even at a price where we break even. So atm it is either take a loss on one of the players with high book value and mess with break even regulations or not take the hit and keep the amortization high.

Anyways i guess we re gonna see a lot of contract extensions of our current players who still have significant book value in order to spread out amortization over a couple years more. And i d expect us to try and sign quite some players on loan again in order to not enhance amortization costs further.

Also it s gonna be intresting to see what we do with Gabi and mario if i m not wrong they carry a combined amortization cost of 12mio per year, very curious to see if we ll be willing to take a loss on them in order to lower amortization costs cause they really are the easiest targets to get our amortization costs down.

This also puts a question mark over any incoming big transfer one would guess that we d have to get rid of players worth 50 mio on our books before signing one such player in order to not increase ammo costs.

Anyways imho this is ridiculose especially if Fucking PSG is allowed to have a 200 mio player playing for them without his amortization costs being shown anywhere on the books. Plus i d guess every top team in the world has increasing ammo costs with transfer sums increasing over the years but some how it s only when you are alredy in trouble that uefa cares about it but then they even care about it once you seemingy solved your troubles fucking assholes.
 

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It isn't true if I understand this article correctly:
http://www.fcinter1908.it/copertina...lan-si-parte-da-13-non-serve-cedere-skriniar/

(1) Banega, Eder, Naga, Pina sales will be beneficial towards the settlement agreement (SA).
(2) Kdog, Mario,Naga + all the youths (except Pina) we sell this summer brings no benefit to SA.
(3) Murillo will bring no benefit to that SA, because it is a free loan until 2019 :palm:
(4) De Vrij, Asamoah and any further free transfers are possible.
(5) Amortization cost has nothing to do with SA; but FFP agreement (FA).
(6) Because of FA, we have to sell all the best Primavera players (Emmers, Colidio, Valieti etc.) to earn 40m by the end of June.
(7) If we want to include any recent signings (Valero, Skriniar, Gags, Vecino, Karamoh, Lautaro, Radja, Chiesa etc.) their transfer cost should <= the money from point (1). You see, we can hardly include one-two of them because our transfer income is peanuts.

Well with that SA, we will join CL with ~10 first team players and 12 worse Primavera ones (all the best ones are already sold - mentioned above). That team won't be able to pass group stage of Europa League, let alone CL.


Yes, this is how I understood it. They look at net transfer position to decide whether or not you can register a new player. To me, that means they only care about the money spent and earned buying and selling. Nothing to do with the player's salary.

If you look up articles in 2016, you will see that we could not register Kondogbia, Gabigol, Joao Mario or Jovetic because the only player we sold from our 2014/15 Europa League squad was Kovacic


Handanovič
Carrizo
Berni
Juan Jesus
Icardi
Guarín
Campagnaro
Vidić
Kuzmanović
Osvaldo
Dodô
D'Ambrosio
Hernanes
M'Vila
Jonathan
Andreolli
Palacio
Obi
Ranocchia
Nagatomo
Medel
Kovačić
Krhin

Costa
Mbaye
Bonazzoli
Donkor
Palazzi
Sciacca
Baldini
Dimarco


From that list we sold the following before registration in the 2016/17 Europa League:

- Bonazzoli: 4.5m
- Kovacic: 31m
- Guarin: 13m
- Hernanes: 13m
- Mbaye: 3.5m
- Obi: 2.2m
- Kuzmanovic: 2m
- Khrin: 1.3m

So it seems like we had a number of around 70.5m to fill our roster with new signings in the 2016/17 list.

Ansaldi - 10.5m
Banega - Free
Brozovic - 5m
Candreva - 22m
Eder - 9.8m
Felipe Melo - 4.2m
Miranda - 9m
Murillo - 8m
Perisic - 19m

Total: 87.5m

My numbers are obviously off, because we registered a higher value than we sold, but you can clearly see the reason why we had to leave those 4 players off the list in 2016.
 

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that can't be real. what if a team sell for peanuts almost every member of the old list team or they retired or something. then this club have to list 25 Primavera players to CL?! or 1-2 new players with 23 Primavera

that must be bullshit
 

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that can't be real. what if a team sell for peanuts almost every member of the old list team or they retired or something. then this club have to list 25 Primavera players to CL?! or 1-2 new players with 23 Primavera

that must be bullshit

There has to be some truth to it or else we would have registered those 4 players for the 2016/17 Europa League.

I am hoping that it just means we can only register new signings if we make sales of equal value in the same transfer market. That would be much easier to comply with.
 

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There has to be some truth to it or else we would have registered those 4 players for the 2016/17 Europa League.

I am hoping that it just means we can only register new signings if we make sales of equal value in the same transfer market. That would be much easier to comply with.

I think we got punished there for over spending while not breaking even. Such a punishment would not make any sense if the club is breaking even.
Also there is no way that Manu, City, Barca and psg have met these criterias over the past couple of years.
 

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I think we got punished there for over spending while not breaking even. Such a punishment would not make any sense if the club is breaking even.
Also there is no way that Manu, City, Barca and psg have met these criterias over the past couple of years.
What applied to all clubs (including those you mentioned) is FFP general agreement. Thohir signed an additional one, settlement agreement, applying to only some clubs including Roma, Inter, Porto and some minor clubs. It is a punishment.

Roma escape from that list recently, while we are still in :palm:

The rule is stupid I know. It is like forcing David fighting with Goliath while the former has one hand and one leg tied.
 

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I wonder whether our top transfer targets are aware of this situation, that we're actually in CL, but most likely they can't play in it? It's such a joke of situation if true. I will feel bad also for last season's signings (Skriniar, Vecino, etc), they don't deserve to be in this mess.
 

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I think we got punished there for over spending while not breaking even. Such a punishment would not make any sense if the club is breaking even.
Also there is no way that Manu, City, Barca and psg have met these criterias over the past couple of years.

I don't think you understand what is going on here. This rule I am talking about is not part of the normal FFP rules that all clubs have to abide by. This is a settlement agreement that only applies to Inter because we breached FFP in the first place.
 

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According to this article, you are right vito...

http://www.fcinternews.it/news/cf-i...ue-ecco-come-funziona-la-lista-ridotta-279856

so only one of Vecino/Gag/Skriniar/Lautaro can be on the list and the 2 free agents.

ridicolous


Wow...I was hoping I understood it wrong.

Looks like we will have to sell off at least 2-3 guys from this list:


Tommaso BERNI
Jonathan BIABIANY
Marcelo BROZOVIC
Antonio CANDREVA
Eder CITADIN MARTINS
Danilo D'AMBROSIO
Samir HANDANOVIC
Mauro Emanuel ICARDI
Joao MIRANDA DE SOUZA FILHO
Yuto NAGATOMO
Ivan PERISIC
Andrea RANOCCHIA
Davide SANTON
 

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So our list will be like this:

Tommaso BERNI
Samir HANDANOVIC
Daniele PADELLI


Joao MIRANDA DE SOUZA FILHO
Danilo D'AMBROSIO
Andrea RANOCCHIA
Davide SANTON
Stefan DE VRIJ
Kwadwo ASAMOAH



Marcelo BROZOVIC
Antonio CANDREVA



Eder CITADIN MARTINS
Mauro Emanuel ICARDI
Ivan PERISIC

one of Skriniar/Vecino/Gag/Lautaro, most probably Gag or Vecino seeing the midfielders...

Andrea PINAMONTI???
Assane Demoya GNOUKOURI ???

and 5-7 free agents or Primavera guys....
 

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WTF!?

That doesn't make any fucking sense. This FFP is completely ridiculous idea if we are stripped from our ability to play there with our full strength. I mean even the current players we have. I understand if new acquisitions can't be added if they are expensive. But this bullshit that we can't use players who have been here for an year already.
 

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WTF!?

That doesn't make any fucking sense. This FFP is completely ridiculous idea if we are stripped from our ability to play there with our full strength. I mean even the current players we have. I understand if new acquisitions can't be added if they are expensive. But this bullshit that we can't use players who have been here for an year already.


This is not FFP normal rules. This is a settlement agreement that we signed on for after not complying with the regular FFP rules. There was no other options for a settlement agreement? It seems like we chose the worse one to agree to.
 

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Fuck it, send the youth to play the games. No point in sending our players half way across Europe to get injured and take time out of our real focus of the league. Its bullshit the conditions, i would have accepted a reduced squad but having to rely on the squad from 3 seasons ago is horse shit
 

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This is not FFP normal rules. This is a settlement agreement that we signed on for after not complying with the regular FFP rules. There was no other options for a settlement agreement? It seems like we chose the worse one to agree to.

That's completely ridiculous agreement and I don't understand why even UEFA wanted that kind of agreement. It undermines their primary competition if one of the prestigious clubs taking part in the competition is totally crippled. Really, WHAT THE FUCK?!
 

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Yeah wtf is this agreement it s beyond stupid! Baisically we cant send a full squad unless we sell icardi wtf man! And how are we ever going to solve this problem without selling a star?
 

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That system is like protection for the big money clubs. It's very hard to get there if were never rich or dropped out of that big boy club. You just need to keep selling your best players like Roma have done, feeding the bigger clubs with best talent.

Completely ridiculous system.
 

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Perfect timing to train up the likes of Emmers, Pinamonti.

All inside CL.
 

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So let me get this straight, we just have to sell Icardi and we're good?
 

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Wait, so has anything official come out to say we can't use specific players? I remember that in the Europa League we could not register Kondogbia, Gabigol, Jovetic, etc. If so, which specific players would be affected? For example, we also bought Candreva that season (same as Gabigol) but he was able to play in the Europa League.
 
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