Inter's Financial Situation

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Next year we'll have a season like 2012-2013 when we finished 9th even if we make CL this one. There won't be reinforcements, and even if we don't sell anyone, this squad is stale and stagnant while others around improve.

Assuming Suning stays which is likely.
 

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how screwed are we if we don’t qualify for the CL next year? I’m leaning towards that it might best for that to happen and then start with a “clean slate”, make big sales, and hope we hit on some talents big ala Napoli.

However, with what I (barely) understand about our financial situation, I fear missing out on CL will set off some chain reaction that will lead to us ending up in Serie D.
there is no 'clean slate'. With our debts, we'd basically be a net +80mil window to compensate for CL revenue, and thats on top of needing probably +40mil anyway. So we need 120mil in plusvalenza/reduced costs already, and then from there we need to rebuild the team.

Not making the CL is a disaster, and what I asid about inter risking bankruptcy being a very low chance significantly increases if we fall out of the CL next year as it will start a spiral for this club over the next few seasons.

Inzaghi needs to go right now, waiting 3 more games is not acceptable.
 

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He changed the name on his account to look more accurate lol

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quite nothing like quoting oneself

Chill guys, ofc its my own account. Its says on the bio "Bluenine @ FIF". Posting my tweet here coz its easier than copy pasting, but happy to copy-paste if somehow that makes it better.

Its just a Aprils fool joke. Chill.
 

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there is no 'clean slate'. With our debts, we'd basically be a net +80mil window to compensate for CL revenue, and thats on top of needing probably +40mil anyway. So we need 120mil in plusvalenza/reduced costs already, and then from there we need to rebuild the team.

Not making the CL is a disaster, and what I asid about inter risking bankruptcy being a very low chance significantly increases if we fall out of the CL next year as it will start a spiral for this club over the next few seasons.

Inzaghi needs to go right now, waiting 3 more games is not acceptable.
Oh goody, so a shitshow either way.
 

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Oh goody, so a shitshow either way.
It's a shitshow now, it'll turn into ebola under Inzaghi if he doesnt make the CL next season.
 

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it's not like the first time inter wouldn't be compete for european competitions. maybe this season Inter got their bad ones., sometimes a football team compete that sometimes not. this is football not an exact study. even in the past inter with zhang suning missed european hype at their first season.
 

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how screwed are we if we don’t qualify for the CL next year?

GdS: Inter’s final games of this campaign could be worth up to €100m depending on their fortunes in Serie A and the Champions League
The Nerazzurri have featured in Europe’s top competition in all of the last five editions of the tournament with great financial reward.

Not including gate receipts, Inter look set to take home at least €75m from this year’s Champions League campaign thanks to their run to the last eight. That figure will increase significantly if they get past Benfica to make it to the semi-finals.

In their forecasted budget for the season, Inter were banking on taking home just €30m from their European campaign, meaning they have already taken home €45m more than they had expected to this season.

Then there is the matter of Serie A, where the difference between second and fourth place in the league, where Inter now find themselves after the weekend, comes at a value of almost €10m.

Inter are also, of course, still in the Coppa Italia, due to play Juventus in the first leg of the semi-final on Tuesday night. If they were to go all the way in that competition, they would also take home an extra €4.5m in competition prize money alone.

The best case scenario would of course be to win both cups and qualify for next year’s Champions League. On the other hand, the worst eventuality would be elimination from both cups and failure to finish in the top four in the league.

Gazzetta reports that the difference between the best and worst case scenarios comes with a financial difference of €100m.
Hope this helps you get the picture @YoramG.
 

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GdS: Inter’s final games of this campaign could be worth up to €100m depending on their fortunes in Serie A and the Champions League

Hope this helps you get the picture @YoramG.

also not giving Dzeko 5 m next season or 12 m for Lukaku loan for him to score 1 goal from open play + his wages + letting all our trash players leave can save us 100m in wages or more.
 

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also not giving Dzeko 5 m next season or 12 m for Lukaku loan for him to score 1 goal from open play + his wages + letting all our trash players leave can save us 100m in wages or more.
100m ? ))
 

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Here`s an even more detailed breakdown of the revenue coming from UCL

HOW MUCH INTER COULD EARN FROM THIS YEAR’S CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
The Champions League quarter-final between Inter and Benfica brings not only the opportunity to qualify for the last four of Europe’s flagship competition, but also the chance to add serious amounts of money to the clubs’ funds ahead of next season.

Participation in any stage of the Champions League guarantees a minimum of €15.64 million in additional revenue for any given club.

Added to that are additional funds based on UEFA’s ten-year rankings, as a result of which, Inter have collected just shy of €16 million, plus a variable market pool figure of around €12.6 million, which can vary depending on the results of the other Italian sides in the competition.

Then, there are bonuses of €2.8 million for a win in the group stages, €900,000 for a draw and €9.6 million for qualifying for the knockout stages.

The Nerazzurri picked up three wins and one draw as they finished second in Group C, behind fellow quarter-finalists Bayern Munich, but ahead of five-time winners Barcelona.

Qualification for the quarter-final stage of the competition brings in an extra €10.6 million, meaning that Inter have already acquired roughly €73.4 million from this year’s edition of the competition.

But, Inter could still go even further. Qualification for the semi-final brings in a further €12.5 million.

Reaching the final guarantees another €4.5 million on top of that, whilst the competition’s winners will walk away with another €15 million in prize money plus an extra €3.5 appearance fee for playing in the UEFA Super Cup.
@YoramG you might wanna read into this as well.
 

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Im hoping we beat up benfica and new owners sack limone in time to win CHAMPIONS LEAGUE this yr
 

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Im hoping we beat up benfica and new owners sack limone in time to win CHAMPIONS LEAGUE this yr
If there is one thing Inzaghi can do is winning cup finals

Having a big run in CL this year would just mean that we won't need to sell anyone by the end of this season. It won't have any effect on next season books if we don't get in CL
 

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If there is one thing Inzaghi can do is winning cup finals

Having a big run in CL this year would just mean that we won't need to sell anyone by the end of this season. It won't have any effect on next season books if we don't get in CL
That's just not true tbh. I think our baseline was CL group stages and sell 1 star, the revenue from hypothetically getting to the final will compensate more than selling 1 star, but next year we'd have probably minimum 50m deficiency
 

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If there is one thing Inzaghi can do is winning cup finals

Having a big run in CL this year would just mean that we won't need to sell anyone by the end of this season. It won't have any effect on next season books if we don't get in CL
Why don't we have it? As of now, if we get into the top 4, we have minus 40m for transfers, and each subsequent stage CL gives us +10m. So we have to sell... And let's not forget that our main sponsor DigitalBits doesn`t want to pay us money 25m
 

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That's just not true tbh. I think our baseline was CL group stages and sell 1 star, the revenue from hypothetically getting to the final will compensate more than selling 1 star, but next year we'd have probably minimum 50m deficiency
How does that contradict what i said?

This year:
If we believe that we had this target of +50M to comply against which was supposed to be achieved by selling 1 big name player then progressing in the CL semi finals can make up for it between CL income , ticket sales, sponsors etc. If as you say we actually achieve even more than that it means extra income which usually in a corporate goes for shareholders benefit. In our case it goes for zhang or in best case scenario to repay part of the debt. If we had healthy financial books it would have gone towards investment.

Next year:
When we will plan budget for next year, how much we profited this year has almost 0 value. It all depends on what we predict the possible revenue will be during next year and what the financial target set up by the owners will be. THat means that if the target is same as this year of reducing salary costs and have positive net income than selling big name players will be a must without CL football
 

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None of the money Inter "makes" goes to Zhang. The club is making deficit, ie losing money every year. Zhangs need to inject money to the club, not the otherway around. In a sense yes it goes to Zhang that they don't need to inject as much money (so he gets to keep more of his own money) if Inter makes more money.
 

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How does that contradict what i said?

This year:
If we believe that we had this target of +50M to comply against which was supposed to be achieved by selling 1 big name player then progressing in the CL semi finals can make up for it between CL income , ticket sales, sponsors etc. If as you say we actually achieve even more than that it means extra income which usually in a corporate goes for shareholders benefit. In our case it goes for zhang or in best case scenario to repay part of the debt. If we had healthy financial books it would have gone towards investment.

Next year:
When we will plan budget for next year, how much we profited this year has almost 0 value. It all depends on what we predict the possible revenue will be during next year and what the financial target set up by the owners will be. THat means that if the target is same as this year of reducing salary costs and have positive net income than selling big name players will be a must without CL football
Yes, that's right, he means that we will end the financial year not with a plus 50 million profit, but with a negative balance sheet of minus 50 million
But this is a purely accounting balance sheet, if you look at the cash flow, the club is in the profit, which is why Zhang doesn't want to sell.
 

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Yes, that's right, he means that we will end the financial year not with a plus 50 million profit, but with a negative balance sheet of minus 50 million
But this is a purely accounting balance sheet, if you look at the cash flow, the club is in the profit, which is why Zhang doesn't want to sell.
UHHHHH What? I dont think we re at the point where our liabilities> assets so i d not expect us to have negative shareholder equity just yet especially since that 200+(?) loan is reported to be with the holding company that owns inter and not inter it selfe.

Also i highly doubt we are CF positive like we postponed paying salaries at one point and our main sponsors still are not paying so i highly doubt we ll be CF positive without selling.... Ofcourse i m talking OP CF here
 

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How does that contradict what i said?

This year:
If we believe that we had this target of +50M to comply against which was supposed to be achieved by selling 1 big name player then progressing in the CL semi finals can make up for it between CL income , ticket sales, sponsors etc. If as you say we actually achieve even more than that it means extra income which usually in a corporate goes for shareholders benefit. In our case it goes for zhang or in best case scenario to repay part of the debt. If we had healthy financial books it would have gone towards investment.

Next year:
When we will plan budget for next year, how much we profited this year has almost 0 value. It all depends on what we predict the possible revenue will be during next year and what the financial target set up by the owners will be. THat means that if the target is same as this year of reducing salary costs and have positive net income than selling big name players will be a must without CL football

My point is your comment about not selling anyone by the end of the season. If we're expecting to be, say, -100m next season because of no CL, then sure, this season's books wont need anyone to be sold to be balanced, but realistically, we'll still sell 3-4 players in the summer
 
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