Julio Baptista

[Illyricum]

Baptista it`s a right for inter he`s strongest, and can make a differenc on midfielder, probably Sneijder would stay rearward and J.B stay rearward of strikers.! Perfect.

Interista.

 

[Hussein]

You do realise that Burdisso is also very versatile as a defender.





Based on what i've seen of him, he is exactly the type of player we don't need. Genuine question? what qualitites have you seen from him that we currently lack in our side?

Listing the clubs was stupid because his performance at these clubs is what matters. Reyes also has prestigious clubs like Arsenal, Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid on his CV but he never played well at any of those places hence he is not rated that highly and the big clubs don't look at him anymore.

What kind of posters we have in this forum?! Can't anybody say something against what you guys think?! First someone calls my post ridiculous and now stupid?! It's called a personal opinion and you have all the right to disagree with it but can't guys have some respect?!

Sorry if my IQ is too low for you guys.

Anyway, to answer your question, if it really mattered, I already mentioned his versatility as he can adopt to different roles in midfield and attack. He is obviously very physical and has a good shot on him.

For the umpteenth time, Baptista is not the "dream" signing that we all are looking for, but he could turn out to be useful for us.

I'm with this transfer because I think we are not paying much for him.

 

[.:42:.]

Hello everybody, i joined this forum long time ago but preferred not to write but i think now it is time to say something.

Hello? We are Inter. We don't need players who strengthen our bench. We need players who strengthen our first 11. We are now in a position where we have to strengthen our midfield with world class players like Sneijder. Such players make our team better, not players like Baptista who make the bench stronger.

btw if we buy a player like Gourcuff our bench becomes automatically better because someone like Stankovic or Motta we have to take place on it.

I know it is hard for us to buy players like Gourcuff etc. We don't have the money of Man city or Real. We aren't that attractive for world class players like Barcelona and i hate it to say Milan. But only because it is hard it doesn't mean we should stick with players like Baptista because they want to come, are cheap and we can get rid of Burdisso. (btw getting rid of Burdisso and getting Baptista isn't getting rid of deadweight, it is just replacing it with an other deadweight)

The more we have to save our all money to spend it on players like Hamsik etc. and not spend it on players who don't bring Inter on to the next level.
We have players like Stefanovic and other youth players who can strengthen our bench. They are not worse than Baptista, and will only become better the more they play.

And also Baptista didn't make it at Real, Arsenal or Roma. Some players arent supposed to play in a top team. We can all hope that he magically improves and become a great player but i don't see it coming. He will end up like Burdisso and others who we can't get rid of because nobody wants to splash out money for them.
Quaresma himself is proving it that some players aren't supposed to be in a team like Inter.

 

[Xoonky]

Nice post, 42. My feelings exactly.

 

[Il Muro]

What kind of posters we have in this forum?! Can't anybody say something against what you guys think?! First someone calls my post ridiculous and now stupid?! It's called a personal opinion and you have all the right to disagree with it but can't guys have some respect?!

Sorry if my IQ is too low for you guys.

Don't cry, it's only an internet forum. You're free to have your opinions aslong as they are justified. I said you're line of reasoning is stupid (simply looking at a player's clubs) rather than your opinion.

Anyway, to answer your question, if it really mattered, I already mentioned his versatility as he can adopt to different roles in midfield and attack. He is obviously very physical and has a good shot on him.

We are not in need of physical players (we have plenty of them), we're more in need of creative players and astute passers. I also think we currently have enough versatile attacking players and most of them are better than Baptista.

 

[Campione]

btw if we buy a player like Gourcuff our bench becomes automatically better because someone like Stankovic or Motta we have to take place on it.

:star: :thumbsup: I completely agree with you for that.

 

[Nero Indigo]

btw if we buy a player like Gourcuff our bench becomes automatically better because someone like Stankovic or Motta we have to take place on it.

:star::star::star: You should post more . You said what I've always wanted to say about this deal in a nutshell. I just didn't have the power to type it all up because I felt my keyboard would catch fire out of my raging anger :smileani:

 

[Hussein]

Don't cry, it's only an internet forum. You're free to have your opinions aslong as they are justified. I said you're line of reasoning is stupid (simply looking at a player's clubs) rather than your opinion.

Obviously I won't cry, I just want to point out that there's no need to use such words to get to the point.

We are not in need of physical players (we have plenty of them), we're more in need of creative players and astute passers. I also think we currently have enough versatile attacking players and most of them are better than Baptista.

I exactly know what you mean, but what alternatives do we have especially for midfield? Can you name few realistic targets who would agree to join?

 

[Marvinho]

maybe hes a temporary fix for our back up AM, just till the summer.. and then he'll become Jose's battering ram..?

 

[spiderninja]

Hello everybody, i joined this forum long time ago but preferred not to write but i think now it is time to say something.

Hello? We are Inter. We don't need players who strengthen our bench. We need players who strengthen our first 11. We are now in a position where we have to strengthen our midfield with world class players like Sneijder. Such players make our team better, not players like Baptista who make the bench stronger.

btw if we buy a player like Gourcuff our bench becomes automatically better because someone like Stankovic or Motta we have to take place on it.

I know it is hard for us to buy players like Gourcuff etc. We don't have the money of Man city or Real. We aren't that attractive for world class players like Barcelona and i hate it to say Milan. But only because it is hard it doesn't mean we should stick with players like Baptista because they want to come, are cheap and we can get rid of Burdisso. (btw getting rid of Burdisso and getting Baptista isn't getting rid of deadweight, it is just replacing it with an other deadweight)

The more we have to save our all money to spend it on players like Hamsik etc. and not spend it on players who don't bring Inter on to the next level.
We have players like Stefanovic and other youth players who can strengthen our bench. They are not worse than Baptista, and will only become better the more they play.

And also Baptista didn't make it at Real, Arsenal or Roma. Some players arent supposed to play in a top team. We can all hope that he magically improves and become a great player but i don't see it coming. He will end up like Burdisso and others who we can't get rid of because nobody wants to splash out money for them.
Quaresma himself is proving it that some players aren't supposed to be in a team like Inter.

Inter will get one of Hamsik/Gourcuff no matter Baptista come or not.

At this time Inter only have 6 midfielder including Zanetti for 4 position and our midfielder is all injury prone(except Zanetti). At least one of them will got injured or got suspended.

I believe Jose prefer 4-3-1-2 more than 4-2-3-1, but he doesn't have enough midfielder. We have Mancini and Quaresma , but they don't have a place in 4-3-1-2 because Jose consider them as forwards, not midfielder.

Of course Baptista is much better than our youngster. We can't rely on Khrin or Stefanovic as backup because winning the title is much more important than developing youngster. Remember Milan is not far behind Inter.

 

[Nyall]

Nyally is high again .

Pato was all theirs.

Anyone who thinks this is a good signing seriously is living in the past, Baptista is a huge mistake if its happening.

Milan wanted one striker and wanted Suazo originally and "settled" for Pato.

 

[Il Muro]

Obviously I won't cry, I just want to point out that there's no need to use such words to get to the point.



I exactly know what you mean, but what alternatives do we have especially for midfield? Can you name few realistic targets who would agree to join?

I think we should get creative midfielders who can play a bit deeper. One of Ledesma or Banega would do nicely, and they are both realistic.

 

[M.Adnan]

I can't understand this pessimism about Baptista AT ALL

Baptista > Mancini

........

That hardly says anything because:

Anyone > Mancini.

I really want to comment on some opinions here that support this transfer because Baptista is better than some of the shit players that we have (like Quaresma, Muntari, Jimenez etc).

So from now on, we should buy players because they're better than our shit? I fail to see the logic here. This is Inter that we're talking about, right?

Ok I'll just sum up my opinion regarding Baptista:

This transfer is BS. We, Inter, are buying a BS player who is not good enough to play for Siena. We're simply taking out Roma's garbage.

You know what? fuck it.

They wanna buy this guy? ok go a head and buy him. I don't give a fuck.

Good luck with "trying" to beat Chelsea.

 

[rfU]

I think we should get creative midfielders who can play a bit deeper. One of Ledesma or Banega would do nicely, and they are both realistic.

Banega is garbage. Was a big fan when he was with Boca (game vs Milan)... and even though he looks good lately his temperament is shitty. plus he's weak as hell. But like you're thinking, a CMF who craves the ball. I'm thinking Cigarini on loan.

 

[Hussein]

I think we should get creative midfielders who can play a bit deeper. One of Ledesma or Banega would do nicely, and they are both realistic.

Ledesma is a decent player, but that's it. Beside he plays the same role that Cambiasso does for us. Buying him right-out now doesn't make any sense since he is battling Lazio legally and will soon rescind his contract so we can sign him as a free agent just like what we did with Pandev.

Having said that I don’t think he is the super player which will transform our midfield. Decent but not super.

As for Banega, I’ve seen him play for Atletico and Valencia and although he really improved this season he is still not a player which I will go for because we can get Ledesma, who will anyway not be a starter for us.

The bottom line, there aren’t many quality players who we could sign, and we can’t stay standstill with the current injury and form crisis we have. Let’s not forget that we are heavily dependent on Cambiasso, Stankovic and Zanetti for the defensive/center midfielder role.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Hussein I apologize if you got insulted by my comment. I just wanted to say IMO it's not a qualified argument for an opinion to state clubs where Baptista has featured. Like I said, in this case it's only negative thing to have so many top clubs in the CV. And that's because Baptista really didn't do well in any other club than Sevilla where he made his name. It's a bit like Pizarro, Suazo to give examples from Inter. Player who can play really well in smaller club than a top club. In the top club the player can't get everything out of himself or simply his everything he's getting out of himself is not enough.

Everything points out that it's exactly this case with Baptista. His touted physicality was a joke in England. If we really need physical players, they have to to be physical enough to cope with English top clubs.

 

[Hussein]

Hussein I apologize if you got insulted by my comment. I just wanted to say IMO it's not a qualified argument for an opinion to state clubs where Baptista has featured. Like I said, in this case it's only negative thing to have so many top clubs in the CV. And that's because Baptista really didn't do well in any other club than Sevilla where he made his name. It's a bit like Pizarro, Suazo to give examples from Inter. Player who can play really well in smaller club than a top club. In the top club the player can't get everything out of himself or simply his everything he's getting out of himself is not enough.

Everything points out that it's exactly this case with Baptista. His touted physicality was a joke in England. If we really need physical players, they have to to be physical enough to cope with English top clubs.

It is ok man no hard feelings.

I’m not in disagreement about the points you made about Baptista as he isn’t the ideal player we need to make our squad better technically, however, I can understand why we are after him since there’s an apparent lack of valid targets. Yes, I obviously dream about having technically gifted players such as Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas in our team but the reality is that players like those are either hard to bring or hard to find.

I’m sure that Inter has a long term plan a player such as Hamsik, but that could be only after 2 or 3 seasons from now. So what to do now? For example, in our recent run of games, we saw that Mourinho has been bringing in many primavera players but I personally wasn’t impressed by them.

The bottom line is Baptista is going to come in to fill the void left by players such as Vieira, and in the coming days Mancini. His attributes suits our current needs.

Not a great move by all means but I find it logical since we need an experienced player.

 

[jayjay]

What kind of posters we have in this forum?! Can't anybody say something against what you guys think?! First someone calls my post ridiculous and now stupid?! It's called a personal opinion and you have all the right to disagree with it but can't guys have some respect?!

Sorry if my IQ is too low for you guys.]

:thumbsup:

 

[Xoonky]

Yeah, the "debate principles" really don't work in here. It's only what the majority think. I myself am against this move as i find Baptista a total waste of a player, but i won't mind someone thinking he's good, it's their personal opinion after all.

 

[el_dude]

I myself am against this move as i find Baptista a total waste of a player, but i won't mind someone thinking he's good, it's their personal opinion after all.

:thumbsup: totally agree

As far as Baptista goes, I am against the transfer as well like lots of people. However, he is the kind of player Jose likes. Very physical, comes back to defend more than your regular AMF, and has a powerful outside shot (although his distribution and shot accuracy may be terrible), so I guess I can understand Jose going after him.

I think as long as we don't rely on him as a key component and just have him stick to his role as Sneijder's backup, there will be no major catastrophe. Yeah, I agree it sucks that after all our hard work to get rid of Vieira, Suazo, Obinna, Burdisso, hopefully Mancini, and others, we are bringing in yet another subpar player who will just take up space and eat up our financial resources. Still, I can live with the decision as long as we definitively get rid of Burdisso and Mancini this season, and bring in Hamsik and 1 more quality midfielder over the summer.

Also, going back to some of the posters on this thread and the way they treat other forumites, I just want to say that I hope people can understand that although they may disagree with someone or even find someone else's opinions to be stupid, there is no room or justification for disrespecting or deriding another member of our little community here. We are all Inter fans, and we should treat each other with respect, even the people we disagree with.