Lautaro Martinez

#NotForMe

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Oct 2, 2020
Messages
1,439
Likes
1,624
I think it is a fool's game (but a fun one) to compare players from different generations, since the game is entirely different, hence the tactics, coaches' wants etc. shape players differently.
Oh yeah forgot to mention Aguero and Suarez. Contrary to the striker in current era, i think current/post 2010 wingers or wide forwards are superior to the 00's wingers. Maybe Giggs was the only good one. Robben, Prime Ronaldo, Salah and Bale are more superior to the likes Pires, Beckham, Figo, Camoranesi lol. Yeah football has been evolved so much.
But "Robben, Prime Ronaldo, Salah and Bale" have way less defense and build up duties/abilities ( i know Bale was a SB before, but still he sucks at it), like you can play the later in a 4-4-1-1 setting, but not the former, and you can kinda play them both in a 4-3-3 setting (maybe Beckham shift to the middle.), which "Robben, Prime Ronaldo, Salah and Bale" is superior in 4-3-3 subject to formation or playstyle , however, it is stupid to do a linear comparison, since they would suck balls in 4-4-2.

About Vieri...
First, I don't think being technically superior is ever a requirement for top strikers, I think Ibra, Henry and Fat Ronaldo etc. made everyone misunderstand that.
Even Haaland is not very technical.
Whether Vieri can survive in today's game, I think you just have to look at Icardi for the answer, which also explains why there is a lack of top strikers in modern era.
Teams basically just don't want to play with a pure striker, you want something like Benzema or Toro, which also the reason why I think how big of a beast Lautaro is, normally the more ground covered/work rate from the striker, the lower the conversion rate it will be, but it doesn't affect him much, not to mention his technic is up there, he is as complete as you can get, of course he is still improving everything.
..so ... even "Bobo will score for us", if we took him as of who he was, he or his team might struggle in modern football, but if he was born later and adjust to all the different training and tactics he would be still a very very top striker.

For me, I think Batistuta is the best striker ever though, and he is not "very technical" whatever that means, I missed at least half of his prime time though, but still I wondered back then if the Gk touches his penalty shot, will it break their bones LOL.

As for Materazzi, he is very good technical wise, glad Brehme1989 pointed it out, like have you guys seen his freekicks and long ball accuracy too? Not to mention his bicycle kick goal with us. Bonus one is the own goal before the world cup LOL so pin point.

You may not remember or didn't follow at the time, but Zidane was considered very inconsistent and only cemented himself as the most important player and the team's leader in the 2003-4 season which ended in catastrophy. It's not like Real Madrid was steamrolling everyone just because they had the world's best players.
Quite misleading, since you pin that one on Zidane it was more of the departures of Makélélé and Hierro, but it was a fucking disaster for them.

P.S. Normally bad boys are kinda cool and bad ass (e.g. Cantona, Cassano etc.) , but for some reason I always felt like Joey Barton was just a laugh stock LOL.
 
Last edited:

brehme1989

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jan 17, 2005
Messages
34,563
Likes
17,304
10 years of FIF
Nostradamus
Most Passionate Member
Quite misleading, since you pin that one on Zidane it was more of the departures of Makélélé and Hierro, but it was a fucking disaster for them.

I wasn't implying that.

There's also the Cambiasso factor who gets mad underrated on Real Madrid. He was sidelined due to Beckham even if Makelele was sold.
Cambiasso was frequently in the main selection of 2002-3 as a 21 year old, playing more than established Flavio Conceicao, something like 2,500 minutes over the course of the season.
The next season he had 1,000 less minutes.

People forget how great of a fit he was there, just because Makelele was a superior sweeping midfielder.

I was so happy the day I saw we locked him on a Bosman!
 

wera

might be Deadpool
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 28, 2011
Messages
32,864
Likes
11,759
Favorite Player
Bea Arthur
10 years of FIF
Most Diverse Poster
But Bosman ruined football?
 

wera

might be Deadpool
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 28, 2011
Messages
32,864
Likes
11,759
Favorite Player
Bea Arthur
10 years of FIF
Most Diverse Poster
He wasn't at his best, he'll be happy with the win in the end. He looked a lot more on point against Atalanta
 

Besnik

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 3, 2009
Messages
18,647
Likes
5,686
10 years of FIF
He wasn't at his best, he'll be happy with the win in the end. He looked a lot more on point against Atalanta

I thought he did some incredible stuff tonight. We were not in our usual level tonight. Quite a lot mistakes, also defence looked very shaky (which is weird), and also most importantly, we lacked aggressiveness in both offence and defence.

It was a difficult task against a very solid team.
 

Mr-Intermilan

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Dec 29, 2018
Messages
516
Likes
863
GH25L_rWIAAIiaE
 

vex

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Dec 13, 2017
Messages
3,584
Likes
3,412
Favorite Player
Don't have one.
Huge respect for allowing sanchez to shoot a penalty. I don't know what's the hierarchy of penalty shooters when both him and sanchez are on the field, but I doubt sanchez is ahead of him in that regard by default. He probably realized penalties aren't currently his strong point and gave it to someone else. That's how a true captain operates.

Hopefully I don't eat shit with these props in near future, cos honestly in penalty hierarchy he should stay as low as possible. :lol:
 

RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Jul 3, 2018
Messages
5,694
Likes
8,069
Favorite Player
CARLOS
Hakan, Sanchez, Arnautovic, and possibly even Dimarco should all be ahead of Lautaro in the pk order. He has to be wise enough to accept this and work on his pens.
 

Javier'sSon

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Oct 11, 2015
Messages
6,752
Likes
2,562
Favorite Player
Bastoni
Surprised no one mentioned that amazing through ball to Barella which lead to that dubious penalty. His forward passing ability has always been good but this season he's improved tenfold. One touch passes, diagonal, vertical, with his back to goal, in transition, etc. also his vision, accuracy.

No.10 suits him more and more.
 

Il Drago

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Dec 21, 2015
Messages
20,813
Likes
32,712
Favorite Player
Wesley Sneijder
Best Football Poster
Best Overall Poster
Huge respect for allowing sanchez to shoot a penalty. I don't know what's the hierarchy of penalty shooters when both him and sanchez are on the field, but I doubt sanchez is ahead of him in that regard by default. He probably realized penalties aren't currently his strong point and gave it to someone else. That's how a true captain operates.

Hopefully I don't eat shit with these props in near future, cos honestly in penalty hierarchy he should stay as low as possible. :lol:

Sanchez is bad at penalties as well. His conversion rate is less than 50%. He scored this time but he shouldn't be taking penalties either.
 

wera

might be Deadpool
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 28, 2011
Messages
32,864
Likes
11,759
Favorite Player
Bea Arthur
10 years of FIF
Most Diverse Poster

Javier'sSon

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Oct 11, 2015
Messages
6,752
Likes
2,562
Favorite Player
Bastoni
someone needs to investigate that man's memory
 
Top