Lucas Rodrigues Moura da Silva

[Scottish_one]

1 goal in 423 minutes (almost 5 matches) is average while 1 goal in 15 matches in plainly crap.

yes i know he looks average, thats the point....

And exactly where from these posts you read that he will destroy world cup defenses and outscore Messi, Gomez and so on?

i misread this post, my bad

seriously these kind of comments piss me off. You people saw this kid in 4 youtube clips and now think he is going to win the golden boot at the 2014 WC !!! A brazilian who actually watchs him says even if he comes here he isn't going to be scoring tons of goals and everyone seems to think this kid is going to be a faster Ronaldniho

 

[Ronaldo]

Douglasthiago, do you think you can win the World Cup with players who are too pussy to go to Europe?

They are going to be in for a nasty surprise in the World Cup.

When I look at the Brazil league... the organisation of the teams and quality of football in tactical terms and mental aspects is far-far from Europe. This is what sets apart European top leagues and Brazilian one which could easily be on the same level as the biggest European one's, tho it seems like financially it's starting to become a reality indeed.

I completely agree.

If Brazil want to have a chance of winning the world cup, they have to let go of these youngsters. Players like Lucas and Neymar need to go to europe and play in front of real defenders. They won't develop much with staying at Brazil.

As Tanel already mentioned, they are going to be in for a nasty surprise in the World Cup.

If Lucas comes to Inter, 2 years in europe before the world cup would be enough time for him to develop and shine at the WC2014.


I'm all in for this move.

 

[Caecuban]

Sorry, I just jump over any crzdcolombian posts because they never make any sense anyway.


Please state the nb and the reason of your disagreement, because honestly I think I agree with most of your point of view:

1. Lucas is a good player.

2. He is only 19 yrs, so he should improve in the next few years.

3. But if he will become a world star is still really uncertain. He could flop when he comes to Europe.

4. Palacio is a good player.

5. He is already 30 yrs, so his quality as a player should decline in the next few years.

6. On the first season at Inter, I think Palacio would be a better addition to our squad (on the field, not taking into account age progression, wages, blablabla) than Lucas, because he is way more experienced overall and specially in Serie A.

7. Lucas would be a nice addition to our squad in a position we are in need, but 30 millions is just too much for him, specially given all the players we need at this moment.

8. Although stats are one of the only ways we have to compare players, it is hard to judge player x player when we are comparing such different teams, opponents, etc such as Brazilian NT, Brazilian Brasileirao and Italian Serie A.

9. Lucas' stats are bad, but if you watch some of his matches you'll realize he's actually quite good.

 

[Ronaldo]

Real Madrid's interest in Lucas is BS and Sao Paulo just using them to increase Lucas's price (if I understood correctly):

http://www.fcinternews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=86036

 

[Olyzzerz]

Ok, I exaggerated a little.
But the Brazilian League is much more competitive.
Every year we have ten big clubs, six medium and only four weak.
Unlike Italy, where there are only four large, four medium and the rest are ridiculous.

Please go lie down

 

[Scottish_one]

Sorry, I just jump over any crzdcolombian posts because they never make any sense anyway.


Please state the nb and the reason of your disagreement, because honestly I think I agree with most of your point of view:

1. Lucas is a good player.

2. He is only 19 yrs, so he should improve in the next few years.

3. But if he will become a world star is still really uncertain. He could flop when he comes to Europe.

4. Palacio is a good player.

5. He is already 30 yrs, so his quality as a player should decline in the next few years.

6. On the first season at Inter, I think Palacio would be a better addition to our squad (on the field, not taking into account age progression, wages, blablabla) than Lucas, because he is way more experienced overall and specially in Serie A.

7. Lucas would be a nice addition to our squad in a position we are in need, but 30 millions is just too much for him, specially given all the players we need at this moment.

8. Although stats are one of the only ways we have to compare players, it is hard to judge player x player when we are comparing such different teams, opponents, etc such as Brazilian NT, Brazilian Brasileirao and Italian Serie A.

9. Lucas' stats are bad, but if you watch some of his matches you'll realize he's actually quite good.

pretty sure i agree with all them points TBH

my problem is not with Lucas, its more that he is a gamble we cant afford when we could so better with the rumored figures that are coming in, 25-40million

as far as palacio is concerned is irrelvent as my point (any yours) is more a proven old Serie A player can't really be compared to a youth from Brazil. i was simplyanswereing the other post than biging up Palacio,

if this was the end of the triple season, Lucas for whatever price would be great because we could afford him not to pay off just like Barca/Man u/RM can but if we can get ramierz or Jovetic for the fee's lucas is rumored for and still have change and they are the best young proven serie a players

my point is more that he is overpriced, ATM in our state 20mil is the absolute max the management should even consider for him

 

[Minardista]

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFUCKING RUMOURS ON THIS MOTHERFUCKING FORUM!

Fuck Lucas. Fuck Sao Paulo. Fuck Brazilian football. This thread should die in a fucking fire. Sao Paulo are just winding everyone up with their stupid money-making bullshit. Inter should not even consider dealing with these brain-dead arsebandits. There are so many players out there we could buy for less with more (unquestionable) talent, why is this guy's name even being mentioned? Blaszczykowski costs less. JOVETIC costs less! Even fucking PEDRO would cost less!!!

Why is THIS thread the most active in the whole fucking forum right now?! It's even less realistic than fucking Lavezzi was. I don't fucking care how much potential Lucas has, how can be a fucking worldbeater. Fuck his stupid little club and their stupid little league. Why are we wasting our time with this clown? This thread should be locked, it's a fucking disgrace it's even here. It's a disgrace that Moratti is interested in him. It's a disgrace we're even considering dealing with that pathetic club. I feel like becoming a Palmeiras supporter just to spite these fuckers.

Just...AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[b4h4mooth]

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! KARIMI IS THE BEST

fixed

 

[Kakaroto]

:fffuuu::fffuuu::fffuuu::fffuuu: Gaby Mudingayi is the best he played in Serie A.

 

[Pipka]

:fffuuu::fffuuu::fffuuu::fffuuu: Gaby Mudingayi is the best he played in Serie A.

No Quaresma is the best because he rocks in sub-par leagues and can do fancy tricks like trivela !!!

 

[douglasthiago]

Douglasthiago, do you think you can win the World Cup with players who are too pussy to go to Europe?

They are going to be in for a nasty surprise in the World Cup.

When I look at the Brazil league... the organisation of the teams and quality of football in tactical terms and mental aspects is far-far from Europe. This is what sets apart European top leagues and Brazilian one which could easily be on the same level as the biggest European one's, tho it seems like financially it's starting to become a reality indeed.

I concur that in Europe the tactical aspect of the game is way better, but then again that's not the only thing that win matches and trophies.

I never said anything about NT or WC.

Fuck his stupid little club and their stupid little league. Why are we wasting our time with this clown? This thread should be locked, it's a fucking disgrace it's even here. It's a disgrace that Moratti is interested in him. It's a disgrace we're even considering dealing with that pathetic club. I feel like becoming a Palmeiras supporter just to spite these fuckers.

What if I told you that aside from Spain and Germany, Europe doesn't produce as many talents as South America does?

You should go for Corinthians instead. Everyone hates Corinthians.

 

[guilhermh]

I saw Lucas more than mose of the pepole here and i'm sure that he isn't better than Cou, Oscar or Neymar and this is going to be waste of huge money.

so like i said - Man u take him, please.

Ask any Brazilian who watches soccer. Nobody will say that Countinho comes close to the quality of Lucas or Oscar. Much less than Neymar.
But if you prefer to think so ... good luck!

---------- Post added at 18:03 ---------- Previous post was at 17:47 ----------

If you have a Brazilian TV channel "Record International " Leandro Damião and Lucas are there now.

 

[ADRossi]

What if I told you that aside from Spain and Germany, Europe doesn't produce as many talents as South America does?

That's a fallacious argument; especially when you equate the countries. Talent produced in Spain and Germany >> Talent product in Brazil and Argentina at this current moment in time. Using your logic, then you would be comparing Italy, England, France against Uruguay, Colombia, and Chile. Not close.

 

[.h.]

i personally believe that as raw attacking talent goes, theres nothing comparable to what the Brazilians or Argentinians have. Years of futsal and so on set you up in a specific way of football that can never be replicated after the fact. You can make a reasonable argument about passing, defensive, tactical, etc, but in terms of just the attacking talent, no comparison.

There's a reason why youth teams move to smaller pitches, smaller balls, etc, to try and teach people to 'play' properly.

All of the best raw attacking talents (I dont mean playmakers like Zidane, but people capable of beating a man - not that Zidane couldnt do this, but you know what I mean) are all great with the ball at their feet and have an array of tricks to pull out if they need. Ronaldo, Maradona, Pele..

Of course it isnt EXCLUSIVELY Brazil/Argentina, but I think the way they DO learn helps alot.

 

[MANTA]

Where can we vote for the most frustratingly annoying thread on FIF? Because I think we have a winner here.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Ask any Brazilian who watches soccer. Nobody will say that Countinho comes close to the quality of Lucas or Oscar. Much less than Neymar.
But if you prefer to think so ... good luck!

---------- Post added at 18:03 ---------- Previous post was at 17:47 ----------

If you have a Brazilian TV channel "Record International " Leandro Damião and Lucas are there now.

Dude, you Brazilians are really great your feet, but stop bragging about your ability to judge players and tactics, you are not good at it.
As I see, you are also heavily obsessed with the strength of your league.

 

[Nerazzurro]

Falcao's law applies heavily here.

 

[Caecuban]

pretty sure i agree with all them points TBH

my problem is not with Lucas, its more that he is a gamble we cant afford when we could so better with the rumored figures that are coming in, 25-40million

as far as palacio is concerned is irrelvent as my point (any yours) is more a proven old Serie A player can't really be compared to a youth from Brazil. i was simplyanswereing the other post than biging up Palacio,

if this was the end of the triple season, Lucas for whatever price would be great because we could afford him not to pay off just like Barca/Man u/RM can but if we can get ramierz or Jovetic for the fee's lucas is rumored for and still have change and they are the best young proven serie a players

my point is more that he is overpriced, ATM in our state 20mil is the absolute max the management should even consider for him

exactly how I feel. he'd be really useful two seasons ago but now we just cant afford to gamble (and 30 millions on Lucas would be quite a gamble)... for that amount I'd prefer if we had gone for Lavezzi

 

[Big Willy]

who watches soccer.

:chan:

 

[douglasthiago]

That's a fallacious argument; especially when you equate the countries. Talent produced in Spain and Germany >> Talent product in Brazil and Argentina at this current moment in time. Using your logic, then you would be comparing Italy, England, France against Uruguay, Colombia, and Chile. Not close.

What part of "aside from Spain and Germany" you couldn't understand? There's no further logic implied. I only said Brazil and Argentina still produce more talented players than any other european country, except Spain and Germany, which are the only european countries producing a lot of talented players right now.

In order to make further comparisons I'd have to follow the other South American leagues, which I don't.

:chan:

Many years of playing FIFA Soccer and studying American English will do that to you. I usually write "football" but sometimes if I'm in a conversation "soccer" just slips. It's a damn shame. kay: