Mateo Kovačić

[Ed.]

I'm still unsure what the best position for Kovacic is. I agree that he hasn't shown much improvement from spending 3 years in Madrid. Brozovic has developed more with us in the same period of time.

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It's far from too late for Kovacic, even Luka Modric wasn't a world beater at his age.

Luka Modric was an integral part of Tottenham when he was at Kovacic age.

 

[Fapuccino]

Luka Modric was an integral part of Tottenham when he was at Kovacic age.

Which doesn't really make him stand out that much more. There is quite a good chance Kovacic would be an integral part of one of these teams if he was in EPL. Maybe not Man City, but probably Spurs, Liverpool or Arsenal.

Even Croatia doesn't play Kovacic ahead of Brozo why should we ?

I don't think you know the type of player he is. He is a creative CM like Modric, Kroos, not a box-to-box like Brozovic, Pogba. Like Casemiro proved, you need balance in midfield.

 

[Matawil]

have we sold him to liverpool instead of RM he would have already be a world beater like coutinho .

 

[Ed.]

Which doesn't really make him stand out that much more. There is quite a good chance Kovacic would be an integral part of one of these teams if he was in EPL. Maybe not Man City, but probably Spurs, Liverpool or Arsenal.

Which goes back to the initial argument that Kovacic's development has been hindered by joining Real Madrid. Kovacic played more football in a season at Inter than the last 3 seasons with Real Madrid.

Luka Modric was one of the hottest name in EPL when he was 25-26 years old. Kovacic is still a mile behind. The next 2 - 3 years are paramount for Kovacic to breakthrough. Look at Coutinho, Salah, Brozovic, etc. They all bloomed at around 24-26 years old. Kovacic needs to move to where he can play regular football, but at this stage his development is more like Gagliardini than Coutinho / Salah.

 

[andrei]

This is actually my biggest dissapointment with Inter. We don't try or know how to develop players. Icardi and maybe Skrniar and to a lesser extend Brozovic are the exception.

Look at Real, Barca, Bayern. All these big clubs develop players. They pay also a lot of money for young, talented and to an extend unproven players. But if you develop these players you can have them for maybe ten years. In this way you accomplish two things: you don't need to make a big turnaround every 2-3 years and the team is pretty much gel and second one: you can concentrate on one or two players per mercato. And for these players you can pay big money if you don't have holes in your team.
Chiesa maybe seems expensive at 60m. But if he turn good, we could be covered in this position for ten years and suddently doesn't seems expensive.
Same with Barella.


But definetely in 2 years we would look for Ninja's replacement. Already 30y old smoking, party animal.

 

[Dogen]

Actually not really sure what play system fits him as all he does is take the ball , lower the head , run like a headless chicken and in 90% of the cases pass backwards.

I love me some Mateo, but with all due proportions this is the truth... hyperbolic and a bit unfair, but still the truth.

He needs to play and he's still in time to bloom like others did, but surely I wouldn't use Modric as a touchstone.
9 years ago Modric was already on another level compared to Kovacic and meant to be "something else", as a player.
And right now they shouldn't even be in the same sentence (but that comes by itself).

 

[Fapuccino]

Which goes back to the initial argument that Kovacic's development has been hindered by joining Real Madrid. Kovacic played more football in a season at Inter than the last 3 seasons with Real Madrid.

Luka Modric was one of the hottest name in EPL when he was 25-26 years old. Kovacic is still a mile behind. The next 2 - 3 years are paramount for Kovacic to breakthrough. Look at Coutinho, Salah, Brozovic, etc. They all bloomed at around 24-26 years old. Kovacic needs to move to where he can play regular football, but at this stage his development is more like Gagliardini than Coutinho / Salah.

Where are you getting these stats from? I checked them and that's not remotely true at all. Even with his injury problems he managed to get almost 1,000 minutes in the league this season. He got 1,600+ in the previous year. That's discounting all the tournaments.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Kova should never be considered a Radja replacement. Kova will never take that next step. He is perfect for a team like Barca back in the days, with prime xavi, iniesta, villa, messi. Other than that he will always be the next big thing, till he hits 30, and everyone sees that potential means shit.

As is, id never take him back. Brozo is much better. Rafinha (if we get him back)is way way way better and these two are almost tje same age as Kova. Gags should watch Bousquets or whatever u spell that cucks name, minus the pussy simulations and he will be rock solid. I wish we had someone who would sit our players and make em watch tapes of X players and try to simulate their game...

Anyway enough off topic, if kova doesnt turn to the dark side as a person, he will never be a great player, as foe world class, that ship sailed.

 

[Glass box]

Kova should never be considered a Radja replacement. Kova will never take that next step. He is perfect for a team like Barca back in the days, with prime xavi, iniesta, villa, messi. Other than that he will always be the next big thing, till he hits 30, and everyone sees that potential means shit.

As is, id never take him back. Brozo is much better. Rafinha (if we get him back)is way way way better and these two are almost tje same age as Kova. Gags should watch Bousquets or whatever u spell that cucks name, minus the pussy simulations and he will be rock solid. I wish we had someone who would sit our players and make em watch tapes of X players and try to simulate their game...

Anyway enough off topic, if kova doesnt turn to the dark side as a person, he will never be a great player, as foe world class, that ship sailed.

You made it sound as if Gagliardini needs only to be like Busquets minus simulations to be a good player. All I see in Gagliardini is an unmotivated lazy fuck who never even tried to show anything in year and a half.

 

[Universe]

You made it sound as if Gagliardini needs only to be like Busquets minus simulations to be a good player. All I see in Gagliardini is an unmotivated lazy fuck who never even tried to show anything in year and a half.

am i using this right?

 

[Ed.]

Where are you getting these stats from? I checked them and that's not remotely true at all. Even with his injury problems he managed to get almost 1,000 minutes in the league this season. He got 1,600+ in the previous year. That's discounting all the tournaments.

What I meant he played more minutes in his last season with Inter than the last 3 seasons with Real Madrid. He was close to 3000 minutes in his last season with Inter.

 

[syrus]

Brozo is keeping out of the starting 11

 

[Fapuccino]

What I meant he played more minutes in his last season with Inter than the last 3 seasons with Real Madrid. He was close to 3000 minutes in his last season with Inter.

Again, not true. In La Liga alone hes played 3,700 minutes.

In fact, he's played more minutes at Real Madrid than he's ever played at Inter (almost 6,000).

Brozo is keeping out of the starting 11

For this game the coach made the right decision. If somethings working, don't change it.

 

[Ed.]

Again, not true. In La Liga alone hes played 3,700 minutes.

In fact, he's played more minutes at Real Madrid than he's ever played at Inter (almost 6,000).

3700 minutes is total of 3 seasons in Madrid.

Kovacic in minutes:

Inter:
12/13 - 1426 minutes (half a season)
13/14 - 1788 minutes
14/15 - 2944 minutes
Total 6148 minutes

Real Madrid:
15/16 - 1414 minutes
16/17 - 2154 minutes
17/18 - 1823 minutes
Total 5391 minutes

He played nearly 760 minutes less in Madrid, that is more than 8 full matches. At Inter, he played for 2 and half seasons compared to 3 full seasons in Madrid. In his last season with Inter, he reached 2944 minutes which is significantly higher than any of the seasons he played in Madrid.

If you still think it's wrong, go to transfermarkt and check out yourself.

 

[Fapuccino]

3700 minutes is total of 3 seasons in Madrid.

Kovacic in minutes:

Inter:
12/13 - 1426 minutes (half a season)
13/14 - 1788 minutes
14/15 - 2944 minutes
Total 6148 minutes

Real Madrid:
15/16 - 1414 minutes
16/17 - 2154 minutes
17/18 - 1823 minutes
Total 5391 minutes

He played nearly 760 minutes less in Madrid, that is more than 8 full matches. At Inter, he played for 2 and half seasons compared to 3 full seasons in Madrid. In his last season with Inter, he reached 2944 minutes which is significantly higher than any of the seasons he played in Madrid.

If you still think it's wrong, go to transfermarkt and check out yourself.

Dude what are you talking about? You said he played more here last season, than in all 3 seasons, which as I showed is factually wrong, and it's not even close.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

Who the fuck cares. He played alot in RM while there was player like Modric, Kroos, James, Isco but in Inter he got benched for who? Guarin?

Plus he got 3 CL.

 

[Ed.]

Dude what are you talking about? You said he played more here last season, than in all 3 seasons, which as I showed is factually wrong, and it's not even close.

I didn't say all 3 seasons. I said the last 3 seasons.

 

[Sassuolu]

This is actually my biggest dissapointment with Inter. We don't try or know how to develop players. Icardi and maybe Skrniar and to a lesser extend Brozovic are the exception.

Look at Real, Barca, Bayern. All these big clubs develop players. They pay also a lot of money for young, talented and to an extend unproven players. But if you develop these players you can have them for maybe ten years. In this way you accomplish two things: you don't need to make a big turnaround every 2-3 years and the team is pretty much gel and second one: you can concentrate on one or two players per mercato. And for these players you can pay big money if you don't have holes in your team.
Chiesa maybe seems expensive at 60m. But if he turn good, we could be covered in this position for ten years and suddently doesn't seems expensive.
Same with Barella.


But definetely in 2 years we would look for Ninja's replacement. Already 30y old smoking, party animal.

You're basically asking why doesn't Inter pay a lot of money for young players like the super clubs you mentioned.

 

[Hasan]

I know it’s unrealistic but it would be interesting to see him two years with Spaletti. I mean, Pjanic was worse when he came under Spaletti. Benched in Lyon, didn’t have position, he was basically free kick specialist who is too slow for attacking midfielder and too weak for defensive midfielder.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah him next to Brozo and Radja in front of them.