Mauro Icardi

[monster09]

Who gives a crap

It's obvious Argentina is not going to win jack shit anyway

They reached 2 finals in 2 years isn't it. Looks like they will win at least 1 cup.

 

[Big Willy]

I think he did played one official match for Argentina (or maybe i'm wrong).

No, you're right, he played some minutes against Uruguay in the last qualifiers.

 

[bandiera]

They have Aguero who is superb finisher and I don't even talk about his overall game.

i never said aguero isnt a superb finisher. but he has more of a supporting role with argentina because messi and higuain score most of their goals. and icardi would be an upgrade over higuain in that target manrole.

 

[shaqi]

great game by capitano

 

[Ronaldo]

He is not playing well. Last year he wasn't playing well either but he was banging in goals. Now with the arrival of the new forwards there seems to be no need for him.

Yes I know last night he was being incolved more and bla bla all that nonsense. But there is a reason he got that high salary, captain armband and that high price tag! And that's because he was scoring goals!

If he continues like this his value will most probably drop.

 

[Fapuccino]

Now with the arrival of the new forwards there seems to be no need for him.

:serious:

 

[Armes]

he's got a point. obviously exagerated, but i too get the feeling he's being overshadowed by JoJo and wait until Ivan get on the scorelines. This is actually good for him - time will tell whether the competition will make him 'grow up' in football terms, or fuck with his confidence.

 

[Pajo]

I really thought he was decent yesterday. Tracked back, worked his ass off, even kept the ball very well. I dont remember him losing the ball.

Needs to do more obviously, but wasnt bad at all.

 

[Batman]

His technical abilites is improving game after game imo, especially in the last two games, also as Pajo said, he has been running his ass off and tracking back a lot, I think the captaincy gave him a turbo charge.

His diving is annoying though.

Why cant people be patient? It's only his fourth game of the season and people already saying shit like we dont need him. Perisic and Jovetic will need him more than anyone here knows. His overall game is improving, the goals will come very soon.

 

[Shaun]

I really thought he was decent yesterday. Tracked back, worked his ass off, even kept the ball very well. I dont remember him losing the ball.

Needs to do more obviously, but wasnt bad at all.

I agree, I thought he was fine, but in comparison to Ljajic and Jovetic he does tend to look very inactive.

 

[monster09]

i never said aguero isnt a superb finisher. but he has more of a supporting role with argentina because messi and higuain score most of their goals. and icardi would be an upgrade over higuain in that target manrole.

You didn't say Aguero isn't a superb finisher but you said 'the one thing they have needed for a long time is a cold finisher and they have one in icardi'.

They already have that cold finisher in Aguero.

 

[bandiera]

You didn't say Aguero isn't a superb finisher but you said 'the one thing they have needed for a long time is a cold finisher and they have one in icardi'.

They already have that cold finisher in Aguero.

You're taking what I said out of context.

If they had a player like Icardi for the Copa or the World Cup, they wouldn't have lost either tournament. Their strikers couldn't finish their 1v1 chances in both finals.

Icardi is a better finisher than any other Argentine striker at the moment. Your link up play is not important when you'replaying with Messi, Di Maria, and Pastore in a team that has most of possession, and you're a striker spending most of your time in and around the penalty area. The job is to score goals, that's what Icardi offers and that's what they've been missing from their strikers.

Aguero offers so much offensively and defensively other than goals, he is very clinical, and he has a great understanding with Messi so I won't be the guy that says Mauro should start over him. Higuain, Dybala, and Correa don't deserve to start over Icardi. I'd say the same thing for Aguero in world cup form.

 

[Pimpin]

all our forwards were horse shit.


we have 3 new strikers and u expect them to click from day one

 

[monster09]

You're taking what I said out of context. If they had a player like Icardi for the Copa or the World Cup, I don't think they would have lost either tournament. They had many chances to finish off both finals but their strikers were not clinical enough. Icardi is a stronger finisher than any other Argentine striker right now. When you're playing as a striker next to Messi, Di Maria, and Pastore, your primary job is to score, that's what Icardi offers and that's what they've been missing from their strikers.

Aguero has a lot to his game other than goals so I won't be the guy that says Mauro should play over him, but Higuain doesn't deserve to start over Icardi. Though I'd say the same for Aguero in world cup form.

But you are making the assumption that he will carry the club form to National team when there are many players who plays well for Club than Country.

Also I obviously disagree with the crux of your argument. Aguero is very clinical playing for City but for some reasons he wasn't the same in the world cup.

Icardi and Higuain both don't deserve to start, Aguero should play as #9 with Messi supporting him, with Di Maria and other one as wingers.

 

[tonyclifton]

He is not playing well. Last year he wasn't playing well either but he was banging in goals. Now with the arrival of the new forwards there seems to be no need for him.

Yes I know last night he was being incolved more and bla bla all that nonsense. But there is a reason he got that high salary, captain armband and that high price tag! And that's because he was scoring goals!

If he continues like this his value will most probably drop.

Icardi always seems anonymous for most of the time in a game because he rarely gets the ball on his feet. But what he does off the ball matters as well. He keeps defenders busy. As a defender, you don't want to keep your eyes off him. One moment you do, he can be through on goal.

It's still interesting to see how better our attacking play would be if we played without him admittedly. The Balkan trio of Perisic-Jovetic-Ljajic upfront is a fascinating thought.

 

[bandiera]

But you are making the assumption that he will carry the club form to National team when there are many players who plays well for Club than Country.

Also I obviously disagree with the crux of your argument. Aguero is very clinical playing for City but for some reasons he wasn't the same in the world cup.

Icardi and Higuain both don't deserve to start, Aguero should play as #9 with Messi supporting him, with Di Maria and other one as wingers.

Well then, what's the point of this discussion in the first place if Icardi will out of nowhere be a fuckup with Argentina? This discussion loses all its meaning. It's an arbitrary and a useless thing to say because you could say that about anyone. It's possible but a lot of things are possible. "What if tomorrow Aguero loses all motivation to play well with the Argentina national team?" The entire point is that we're talking about probabilities here, and it's highly probable Icardi will play well with the national team if he plays well with Inter provided he isn't misused and he doesn't lose his confidence.

Aguero is very clinical but he isn't as clinical as Icardi and I never said Icardi should start over Aguero, so yeah, I have no idea what the point of this reply was.

 

[Shaun]

Icardi always seems anonymous for most of the time in a game because he rarely gets the ball on his feet. But what he does off the ball matters as well. He keeps defenders busy. As a defender, you don't want to keep your eyes off him. One moment you do, he can be through on goal.

It's still interesting to see how better our attacking play would be if we played without him admittedly. The Balkan trio of Perisic-Jovetic-Ljajic upfront is a fascinating thought.

He certainly keeps defenders worried about his runs behind the defense, or in the box, but in a lot of other ways defenders can rest easy with him because he doesn't really dribble, he's not particularly fast, and he doesn't tend to score outside of the box.

 

[TGDella]

Yep I feel he's useful in our team positionally in stretching the defence and creating space around the box - as seen by the Guarin goal vs Milan. Same works for Jovetic, whom we want to give the ball around the box with as much time and space as possible. It's relatively easy to defend against attackers who are all happy to play in front of you all game.

 

[monster09]

Well then, what's the point of this discussion in the first place if Icardi will out of nowhere be a fuckup with Argentina? This discussion loses all its meaning. It's an arbitrary and a useless thing to say because you could say that about anyone. It's possible but a lot of things are possible. "What if tomorrow Aguero loses all motivation to play well with the Argentina national team?" The entire point is that we're talking about probabilities here, and it's highly probable Icardi will play well with the national team if he plays well with Inter provided he isn't misused and he doesn't lose his confidence.

Aguero is very clinical but he isn't as clinical as Icardi and I never said Icardi should start over Aguero, so yeah, I have no idea what the point of this reply was.

It's assumption and with that assumption you somehow concluded Argentina would have won World cup and Copa had they played Icardi. You assumptions are on ideal world where everything is perfect, like how Argentina have creators, they need scorers. But that doesn't work like that. Icadri's overall game is not good enough yet to play for Argentina. If Messi tries to play one two with Icardi, what are the chances of Messi receiving the pass?

I have said many times even Higuain shouldn't be in the first 11.

Argentina's best attack is obviously Aguero with Messi and Di Maria, Tevez has very good claim to lead the line as his overall game is brilliant.

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He certainly keeps defenders worried about his runs behind the defense, or in the box, but in a lot of other ways defenders can rest easy with him because he doesn't really dribble, he's not particularly fast, and he doesn't tend to score outside of the box.

Not sure I agree with that, it's pain in the ass for defenders to mark someone who always makes the run and keeps on moving. Someone like Raul gave many defenders nightmare, not with his dribbles or passes but with his movement,

 

[Shaun]

Not sure I agree with that, it's pain in the ass for defenders to mark someone who always makes the run and keeps on moving. Someone like Raul gave many defenders nightmare, not with his dribbles or passes but with his movement,

What I meant was he's not the type of striker who will have defenders chasing him around the park, or to draw multiple defenders when the ball is at his feet due to fear of what he might do, but I agree that his movement is definitely his strong suit, and it does cause issues for defenders.