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You know around 60m is going to be 50m plus 10m bonuses.

I was avoiding this thread like the plague because if i express what i feel about this i would have to give a ban to myself. But this saga is making me lose any interest for this club. Club is losing its soul and players have become assets to meet financial goals set by the ownership. This isn't why i got into football and the reason i have been supporting this club for over 20 years.

For me football is above all emotions and they're killing it slowly but steadily.
 

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If we shake up this well oiled defense we will lose points because we will have to spend first third of the season to try to find a new working combo. It happend before when either Skriniar or Bastoni was absent.

Instead of improving from last season, with lets say better attack Lukaku/Dybala, we will do the oposite, destroy the defense and have more lost/drawn matches. In the end it will only make the fans angry by losing their fan favorite player.

I don't believe score more goals than the oposition is a working tactic if we leak goals left and right. I believe strong defense wins us the Scudett
agree, and we had best attack last year and second best deffense, well third...
 

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The capital gains excuse doesn't feel to make much sense.
Hakimi (July 6th) and Lukaku (August 12th) were sold in this fiscal season. For a combined 80m in capital gains. And now we're rushing for 60m more before the turn of the month?
It's not for FFP, it's not for Oaktree, it just doesn't make any sense.
We have reduced expenditure by a lot, amortization per annum is possibly at the lowest levels since Suning took over... It just doesn't make sense.

I think this is more of a message to players to get on board with what the management dictates.

They're still following orders of getting money from sales and having healthy (meh) capital gains, but picking Bastoni, Skriniar and Barella for this is something completely different.

We've seen Ausilio turn trash into 30m worth of capital gains within 10 days. We have better trash now, we have players that actually attract interest from teams willing to spend millions on them..yet here we are behaving as if Skriniar being shipped out is business as usual!
 

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It'll never be enough for Suning. We saw it last year where they made a 150 million or so profit and they are still selling players. Even though the reports last year were 60 million in net profit per season. If they cut down costs 50% it'll be how can we cut costs 150%. They aren't interested in slowly and healthily eliminating debt while still keeping the team together. They want to rapidly eliminate debt while hoping the on field product will survive.
 

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The capital gains excuse doesn't feel to make much sense.
Hakimi (July 6th) and Lukaku (August 12th) were sold in this fiscal season.
is the financial year in Italy not the same as the calendar year?
 

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We've seen Ausilio turn trash into 30m worth of capital gains within 10 days. We have better trash now, we have players that actually attract interest from teams willing to spend millions on them..yet here we are behaving as if Skriniar being shipped out is business as usual!
Don't sell him short man, I think it was closer to 40m.
 

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The capital gains excuse doesn't feel to make much sense.
Hakimi (July 6th) and Lukaku (August 12th) were sold in this fiscal season. For a combined 80m in capital gains. And now we're rushing for 60m more before the turn of the month?
It's not for FFP, it's not for Oaktree, it just doesn't make any sense.
We have reduced expenditure by a lot, amortization per annum is possibly at the lowest levels since Suning took over... It just doesn't make sense.

I think this is more of a message to players to get on board with what the management dictates.

They're still following orders of getting money from sales and having healthy (meh) capital gains, but picking Bastoni, Skriniar and Barella for this is something completely different.

We've seen Ausilio turn trash into 30m worth of capital gains within 10 days. We have better trash now, we have players that actually attract interest from teams willing to spend millions on them..yet here we are behaving as if Skriniar being shipped out is business as usual!
I agree with everything else but even though I strongly dislike Marotta, I find this hard to believe. Are you saying he's selling Skriniar as punishment for... what exactly? Refusing to be sold previously?
 

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You know around 60m is going to be 50m plus 10m bonuses.

I was avoiding this thread like the plague because if i express what i feel about this i would have to give a ban to myself. But this saga is making me lose any interest for this club. Club is losing its soul and players have become assets to meet financial goals set by the ownership. This isn't why i got into football and the reason i have been supporting this club for over 20 years.

For me football is above all emotions and they're killing it slowly but steadily.
Football being about emotion now when we are short of money, but it was also about emotion when we were the ones spending like idiots. What happened with the likes of Moratti well over a decade is haunting us till now, and had football been only for the emotion for us Inter fans back then, I don’t know how many of us would have been here.

It is time to recognize that the ownership tries to run the club self sustainable which is the bare minimum you’d expect them to do. Why should they invest in something for the sake of crushing money? And even if they did, wouldn’t we be just our former selves or like PSG and would buy the shit out off the emotions football provides?

I for once trust our current management to do the right thing, as they have done with Hakimi and Lukaku, and as they have done by buying someone like Sanchez, Darmian, Dzeko, Vidal, Calhanoglu, etc. Where the stakes were pretty high at this Transfers failing. We‘ve had remarkable successes in the last three seasons, so I‘ll trust them to do whatever it takes to keep the club running successfully.
 

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I agree with everything else but even though I strongly dislike Marotta, I find this hard to believe. Are you saying he's selling Skriniar as punishment for... what exactly? Refusing to be sold previously?

Well, indirectly yes.

Skriniar is a locker room leader and was the favorite for the captaincy. He delayed his renewal by a lot, but the same happened with Perisic and Brozovic who were more urgent, so who knows...

Skriniar was also a player that vetoed his own transfer several times under Marotta. Bastoni did the same, Barella also rejected to move recently. Skriniar is viewed as untouchable, yet he's the one to leave. It gives a signal: everyone is expendable.

Marotta did this at Juventus, too, with Bonucci. It's not something new. But Bonucci didn't like that and pursued to leave, whereas Skriniar had opted to stick around for the bullshit shower thrown at him. Until now maybe. Chances he rejects this move seen very slim.
 

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is the financial year in Italy not the same as the calendar year?

The tax season.

I meant the financial season, which is the same as the football season (1st July to 30th June)
 

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The capital gains excuse doesn't feel to make much sense.
Hakimi (July 6th) and Lukaku (August 12th) were sold in this fiscal season. For a combined 80m in capital gains. And now we're rushing for 60m more before the turn of the month?
It's not for FFP, it's not for Oaktree, it just doesn't make any sense.
We have reduced expenditure by a lot, amortization per annum is possibly at the lowest levels since Suning took over... It just doesn't make sense.

I think this is more of a message to players to get on board with what the management dictates.

They're still following orders of getting money from sales and having healthy (meh) capital gains, but picking Bastoni, Skriniar and Barella for this is something completely different.

We've seen Ausilio turn trash into 30m worth of capital gains within 10 days. We have better trash now, we have players that actually attract interest from teams willing to spend millions on them..yet here we are behaving as if Skriniar being shipped out is business as usual!

I can't thank you enough for this post, genuinely.

The sheer absurdity of this post alone somehow eclipses the fact that we're selling a legend of the club and makes me feel a bit less bad about the entire situation.
 

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Football being about emotion now when we are short of money, but it was also about emotion when we were the ones spending like idiots. What happened with the likes of Moratti well over a decade is haunting us till now, and had football been only for the emotion for us Inter fans back then, I don’t know how many of us would have been here.

It is time to recognize that the ownership tries to run the club self sustainable which is the bare minimum you’d expect them to do. Why should they invest in something for the sake of crushing money? And even if they did, wouldn’t we be just our former selves or like PSG and would buy the shit out off the emotions football provides?

I for once trust our current management to do the right thing, as they have done with Hakimi and Lukaku, and as they have done by buying someone like Sanchez, Darmian, Dzeko, Vidal, Calhanoglu, etc. Where the stakes were pretty high at this Transfers failing. We‘ve had remarkable successes in the last three seasons, so I‘ll trust them to do whatever it takes to keep the club running successfully.

Football is all about emotions but emotions are all about winning. If we end up winning, people will forget about this summer in a week.

We have also seen the exact opposite situation in 2010 when we went full emotions and refused to lose our legends. What was the result? Well, we eventually had to sell these legends anyway, just at terribly discount prices, and these legends also spent their last few years receiving countless insults from the fans.

I don't know anything, I just hope we end up better this time, because the emotions approach surely didn't work.
 

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Maybe the positive thing is Bastoni Will stepup become leader this season.
 

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Well, indirectly yes.

Skriniar is a locker room leader and was the favorite for the captaincy. He delayed his renewal by a lot, but the same happened with Perisic and Brozovic who were more urgent, so who knows...

Skriniar was also a player that vetoed his own transfer several times under Marotta. Bastoni did the same, Barella also rejected to move recently. Skriniar is viewed as untouchable, yet he's the one to leave. It gives a signal: everyone is expendable.

Marotta did this at Juventus, too, with Bonucci. It's not something new. But Bonucci didn't like that and pursued to leave, whereas Skriniar had opted to stick around for the bullshit shower thrown at him. Until now maybe. Chances he rejects this move seen very slim.
This is just some serious angle shooting. :lol:

Also, about the earlier post, why the plusvalenza requirement can't be FFP, why it can't be Oaktree? We don't know much about the Oaktree deal. There can be all kind of clauses there.
 
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