Official: Inter sign Ricardo Quaresma

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I will keep saying it again, 40 mil means we should get Messi.

I doubt that Messi can be bought for 40million. TRUST ME, if it was the case, Moratti would have done it.

Then again, 40million for Quaresma seems to be a big price. Then again, I do think that we can get him for less than that but it ain't going to be easy. BUT our advantage will be that the player's temptation to play under Mourinho could help us alot to get him here for the best price. {he will be expensive but less expensive than it could be}:p

We should be smart and sign Quaresma RIGHT NOW, if possible coz I do think that he's gonna perform very well there and he would be more expensive after EURO 2008.

Lets do another Grosso, as it was one of the best coup from us having signed him just before the world cup {though the official confirmation only came later on, if I am not wrong}.:)
 

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Suneeto, after the exchanges between Messi & Mou in 05/06, where the latter called the former a diver, I doubt that they'll be in the same team, ever. :)

Hey I never said we will ...;)

But in my eyes Han, no player is worth 40m. We have to pay out Mancio's salary if you've forgotten, that is around 30m in the coming 3 years..

Mourinho's salary is higher than Zlatan.

I dont want to see Inter going bankrupt. And we have been in the red for a long time..
 

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40 million is the release clause, even if he is the player of the tournament at euro 2008 the price won't go up.
 

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Hey I never said we will ...;)

But in my eyes Han, no player is worth 40m. We have to pay out Mancio's salary if you've forgotten, that is around 30m in the coming 3 years..

Mourinho's salary is higher than Zlatan.

I dont want to see Inter going bankrupt. And we have been in the red for a long time..

But Mourinho is the best in the world while Zlatan is only one of the best. That's why he gets the bigger wage.
 

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Oh I have no problems paying their salaries, its just spending 2 years transfer budget on a player who has no Calcio experience sounds scary, I know you guys understand what I'm trying to say..

Lets wait for Mourinho to announce the formation he plans to play, only then we will find out if we need Quaresma.

My wet dream is Cassano for 6m, but under Mourinho he is going to be in the stands for the entire season within 15 minutes of the first training session after the Euros. After all Mourinho didnt listen to Abrahimovich :D
 

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Let me quote Suneet's post:

Quaresma as a trequarterista? :lol:

You had this - ":lol:", so I assume that you are joking, right ? :D

Lets not buy him hoping that he could play there. From what I have read and seen few games, he's a pure WINGER or a wing forward kind of player and who does very well when cutting inside from the wings.:)

The reason why I quoted Suneet's post being that, there are others who indeed think that Quaresma can definitely play as a play-maker.

:)
 

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The worst thing about quaresma is that he is a mood player, he only plays very well when things work out for him and he is confident, much the same problem Roma's Mancini has. They can completely fall out of a game when things dont work for them, and it happens too often.

Quaresma plays well when the rest of the team plays good as well, but he isnt the type who can pull up the rest of the team and thats what we really need.
 

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Agree with Azz.
 

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The worst thing about quaresma is that he is a mood player, he only plays very well when things work out for him and he is confident, much the same problem Roma's Mancini has. They can completely fall out of a game when things dont work for them, and it happens too often.

Quaresma plays well when the rest of the team plays good as well, but he isnt the type who can pull up the rest of the team and thats what we really need.
I don't want to be meticolous :>, but don't we already have a player like that? The one that is on loan currently, maybe ? :p

And he is the one you want to get back, but with this one is a different story ? :>

I am just trying to make a point. You might be right, I haven't follow every move of Quaresma at Porto, so I'm not the one who can judge him. But I think there are many players who are like that, and very few who can rise up, even if the things are not going well.

Anyway, I want to point out one thing to the fans of Cristiano Ronaldo, that he was playing in Portugese league too you know, he didn't rose up suddenly in Man Utd ranks.

What I mean, is that the fact that Quaresma is playing in portugese league doesn't have to mean that he can't turn into another CR7, or even a better player maybe.

And about this pricetag, I think we are in advantege here with this relase clausule. Why?

Because, we can say: "Here is 30 Mil, you take it now, or otherwise, if you will stick with 40 Mil price tag, why we should buy him now?".

We can easily wait for EURO, see how he will do, if he will be a bomb there, then we will buy him for the price he is worth. BUT, if he won't succed, then Porto is risking, that the teams might get more cold about him, and not offer even 20, or 25 Mil.

So I think it is a risk that Porto is taking there, and it should work to our advantage.
 

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What in the world does Adriano have to do witn anything :confused:? What a ridiculous counter argument to make, and then you mention you dont even know what you are talking about...

Seriously, sometimes i think you post just for the hell of it...

But since you put it that way. It wont cost 40m to get Adriano back. If quaresma was free, i wouldnt mind gambling him either....
 

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What in the world does Adriano have to do witn anything :confused:? What a ridiculous counter argument to make, and then you mention you dont even know what you are talking about...
I did?

I think I just said, you might be right, but I didn't say that you ARE right did I?

It's just for you it's like all the time, it's white and black, either player is good, or he is worthless, overated and all that.

I thought, you are Ok with Gambling over Nasri?

So Nasri is fine, but Quaresma is not ? (don't say Quaresma cost twice as much to gamble, it's not my point).

ps. Adriano is right now on the verge of being sold, anyways he didn't impress to much from what I've heard in Brasil. Jose seems to have his mind set in this direction.
 

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Being sold to who? Mourinho hasnt even joined the club, yet you know his intentions :howler:? When did you become his personal advisor?

Quaresma isnt worthless, he is just too limited a player for it to be worth spending 40m on him.

I dont get the point of your posts, you say i might be right and not be right at the same time, what the point of your post? What exactly are we arguing about here :confused:

If you have a problem with my choice of words regarding players, then thats your problem. You should have learned by now, that just because i say they are worthless obviously dont mean they are shit players, it just means they in opinion arent a good buy for us in my book. I Evaluate potential targets by 3 factors talent, price and how much we need a certain player.

But about Nasri, Nasri cost less than half of Quaresma, is highly talented and plays a central playmaking role that would suit our game much better than a wing forward.
 

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Nasri has had one of the shittiest season with Marsellie. For an Attacking Midfielder his goals/game ratio is absolutely laughable. His previous season was a much better one, but at this point he is nothing but a talent, and not a very good one. Thats why Arsenal manage to get him so cheap. Its a huge gamble with Nasri. Will he or wont he become a good player?

Quaresma is already a star, with impressive perfomances in the Portuguese league, in CL and with the Portuguese NT. For almost all Portugal NT, he always outshines C.Ronaldo. A right winger but can play on the left as well, depending on the teams need. Can cross 50 times better than any player in our squad. He may not have as much pace or skill as C.Ronaldo, but he is not that behind.

He failed at Barca, cause when he joined them, he was freakin 19. Now he is 24, and is ready for a bigger challenge. I dont like the 40mill Euro tag though. He would be perfect for 30mills.
 

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+1What Shahz said

I want him for cheaper than that too.. maybe then I would consider him a good signing, or maybe a straight swap for Adriano. Adri would be a super player in Portugal.
 

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Being sold to who? Mourinho hasnt even joined the club, yet you know his intentions :howler:? When did you become his personal advisor?
I'm not saying he will be sold. I think it is more likely he will be sold, than not. Drogba will be sold, that's a fact for Chelsea fans, so I don't see any other direction he might go. If he will, I don't see how Adriano will stay in the club. Stop putting words in my mouth that I didn't say.

I dont get the point of your posts, you say i might be right and not be right at the same time, what the point of your post? What exactly are we arguing about here :confused:
I'm not arguing. I'm telling you, that you might be right, but also you might not be right. You seem pretty sure that Quaresma would be a flop. I think there is more chance he won't be, although I acknoledge that you might be right. What is so difficult here to understand ? I'm leaning towards Quaresma as succesfull transfer, while you are saying that it would be a mistake. How can you be so sure ? We are not getting Alberto Gilardino for cry out loud.

You should have learned by now, that just because i say they are worthless obviously dont mean they are shit players, it just means they in opinion arent a good buy for us in my book. I Evaluate potential targets by 3 factors talent, price and how much we need a certain player.
Ok, fine. 3 factors.

But about Nasri, Nasri cost less than half of Quaresma, is highly talented and plays a central playmaking role that would suit our game much better than a wing forward.
So... according to those factors, Quaresma can't be considered that we don't need him: If we will switch the system to 4-3-3, that makes Quaresma higly needed, while Nasri will be worthless. Am I get this right ?

Because... you can't be sure that Mourinho will play 4-3-1-2. Actualy, if you take this paper a reliable source, it highly indicates, Jose will play 4-3-3. Even like 80% of the people in italian forum thinks he will play 4-3-3.

So in this case, does it mean Nasri worthless, and Quaresma not ?

ps. That's what most of the people are saying about Quaresma Shahz. But apparently, Azzkir dissagre :}
 

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First of all, i never said we should sign Nasri, i said he has undeniable talent and that 15m€ was a bargain, that any club should consider.

Nobody knows what Mourinho will play, it doesnt matter what people on online forums think or what newspapers write, because they dont have a clue whats going on. Mourinho hasnt even met our players or assessed the teams ability yet.

Changing to a 433/451 would require massive changes, i doubt it will happen. We dont have unlimited funds, even 100m would be enough to satisfy mourinho oldboy complex to bring in lampard, drogba and perhaps one of carvalho and deco, and then still buyout quaresma and get another winger (silva or mancini perhaps?) and ofc some substutes. Then there is the subject of having 6 forwards while the formation only needs one...

Its not realistic to think we will change to 451, unless we sell alot of our players including zlatan, it will requre way too many changes.
 

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Quaresma, Lampard and Drogba are the only First team footballers that will REALISTICALLY join Inter this summer.

Others will be youngsters, role players, or gambles (as any transfer is, though).

If we did play 4-3-3, I could see Zlatan playing right wing type position, with a new acquisition most likely at CF (Drogba), and god knows, maybe Maxwell or Suazo could play left wing, or Quaresma arrives and settles the matter?

I don't know if we will see a Zanetti-Stankovic-Cambiasso-Vieira midfield pairing ever again.
 

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First of all, i never said we should sign Nasri, i said he has undeniable talent and that 15m€ was a bargain, that any club should consider.

Nobody knows what Mourinho will play, it doesnt matter what people on online forums think or what newspapers write, because they dont have a clue whats going on. Mourinho hasnt even met our players or assessed the teams ability yet.

Changing to a 433/451 would require massive changes, i doubt it will happen. We dont have unlimited funds, even 100m would be enough to satisfy mourinho oldboy complex to bring in lampard, drogba and perhaps one of carvalho and deco, and then still buyout quaresma and get another winger (silva or mancini perhaps?) and ofc some substutes. Then there is the subject of having 6 forwards while the formation only needs one...

Its not realistic to think we will change to 451, unless we sell alot of our players including zlatan, it will requre way too many changes.
I will quote myself:

"So in this case, does it mean Nasri worthless, and Quaresma not ?"
 
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