Serie A Transfers

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Completely disagree. How do we know how will Inter do if both Ronaldo & Vieri are fit??? In his last year with Inter, we went agonisingly close to the Scudetto. Is that not promising enough for him to stay??? How can he say, "Inter keep failing, I'm out of this club," when Ronaldo, who was supposed to lead our attack with Vieri, has been out for so damn long??? Without our best player, we still challenged for the Scudetto till the very death.

Crespo didn't wanna leave us. He said to the newspaper that he felt settled in Milan but Inter want him out. There's no official reason but I think we needed the transfer revenue to get Kily, VDM, Luciano, Cruz, Brechet and all those players that arrived that summer.


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After Crespo joined Milan on loan he is nothing in my eyes. :thumbsdo: And his comments - No Comments! :D
 

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Han, i dont agree like you and i said that. But i only said i can understand his reasons to leave the club, and mostly due to the injuries.

Here in Egypt and in the arab world particular. When a player gets injured with a club a lot, will leave it and go to another because people might think its a curse or something.. ofcourse i dont agree with this. But i can understand Ronaldo feeling it.

I am dead sure he didnt leave us for money, really.

About Crespo, nothin was official as you said. Players can say whatever they like.
The coach wanted Crespo to stay(Cuper) and he fought agianst his transfer as far as i know.
Crespo wanted to leave and he jumped when he got interest from Chelsea.

If we wanted to sell him, then why wait till the last moments before the league starts and replace him with Cruz who was an average striker before he joins.
Our management yes is not good, but not to that extent really.

Plus didnt all the players you mentioned joined before Crespo leaves. Except Kily i think..? and Kily joined for what. 3 or 4 million.. which is peanuts.

Thats why i cant find a logical reason.. i hope you are not lost :D
 

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Handoyo said:
Completely disagree. How do we know how will Inter do if both Ronaldo & Vieri are fit??? In his last year with Inter, we went agonisingly close to the Scudetto. Is that not promising enough for him to stay???
Actually, we better off with Kallon-Ventola and we started bleeding away the points with Ronaldo and Vieri. Ronaldo left because he knew he couldn't survive in a physical serie A and wanted glory the easy way. That's why i think he left but really nobody knows except for Ronaldo and Moratti. I also don't buy his excuse of Cuper being the reason he left.
 

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Sheriff: Well, we really don't know if he's receiving more or less wage in Real Madrid compared to his time in Inter. But still, it doesn't give him a reason to just dump us like that. Perhaps he doesn't move for money but for glory. Is it right that he leave us (Whatever the reason was) after all those years that the Interisti had faithfully waited for Il Fenomeno's comeback??? They sent him millions of e-mails. They declared a Ronaldo day (Can't remember when). The players showed faith in him by putting 'Non Mollare Mai' on their jerseys when Ronaldo suffered his most knee injury against Lazio in the Coppa Italia. Whatever the reason was, Inter wanted to keep him, Ronaldo wanted to move and that's an act of backstabbing IMO. :)

About Crespo. He did an interview with a newspaper and said that he was sad to leave Inter since he felt that he was settled there. This is not an opinion but a fact because Crespo indeed said that. Otherwise, the newspaper could have been sued. :D

I have no idea why Crespo was sold at the very last moment of the transfer window. Maybe because Chelsea/Inter/Crespo keep bargaining till the very end???

I know that the players that came in cost very little in total but we must not forget about our wage bill. Perhaps the management designed a limit to the total wage bill and they need to let Crespo off in order to maintain it.


Well, these are just my 2 cents. :D


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I agree with everything you said about Ronaldo. But about the wage, Madrid said last year that Becks will take 90,000 english pounds a week like all the other super stars and raul was included in the list. So that's why i imagine Ronaldo was in the same category. Dont know about now though after renewing his contract and stuff..


Handoyo said:
I have no idea why Crespo was sold at the very last moment of the transfer window. Maybe because Chelsea/Inter/Crespo keep bargaining till the very end???Hand;)yo

Why cant we assume that he wanted to leave and our club was trying to convince him of staying..?
Or maybe he wanted to stay with Inter under one condition which is giving him wages like what Chelsea offered..?

There are not a lot of players with committment like Capitano. Not all your fingers are the same..:D
 

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OK dude, that just means that we have different assumptions. :dielaugh::D


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We can add it here also, so Di Vaio has left Juventus for Valencia and the transfer fee was unbelievable 11,5 million euros. Moggi got the money which they can use to get Emerson from Roma. Though they have to get a new forward, cause now they have just three seriously taken forwards (Trezeguet, Del Piero, Miccoli). Gilardino and Mutu are the mostly linked ones.
 

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I think Valencia got the better end of that deal.
 
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Better end? Di Vaio costed more than most players do in the last years transfer market (if you exclude Chelsea´s idiotic transfers).

Valencia payed a hell of a lot of cash for a player who isn´t all that.
 

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Well I have seen him 5-10 times. And I was actually impressed.
 

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If there is a winner and a loser for this deal then for sure Juve is the loser.They lost about 14 millions from the amout they paid to get him. De Vaio can be a very good prospect in la liga, especially with the players around him and the service he can get.
Also, this means Aimar and Mista might be on their way out, and therefore Valencia is not losing money, on the contrary they will get money.

Now i really dont know why did Capello sacrifise De Vaio. All this to play Del Piero.! I really dont get it. If they should sell someone then it must be the old injured del boy.
Mico. should take his place while trezegol and de vaio upfront. I guess capello made a big mistake really, and even if they do sign Gilardino or whatever, he should have given a chance to his own players..!

Capello said in an interview that instead of buying players, he must first look at his own..! How come then he sells de vaio, one of the most exciting players really. Anyway i am glad he joined the "che".
 
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Kinda weird then that Juve fans are celebrating this transfer, if they are the losers. ;)
 

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Marco The Butcher said:
If there is a winner and a loser for this deal then for sure Juve is the loser.They lost about 14 millions from the amout they paid to get him. De Vaio can be a very good prospect in la liga, especially with the players around him and the service he can get.
Also, this means Aimar and Mista might be on their way out, and therefore Valencia is not losing money, on the contrary they will get money.

May be Mista will be sold, but not Aimar. Corradi and M.Di Vaio could be the starters, supported by Fiore, Aimar, Baraja and co.

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Jimmy said:
Kinda weird then that Juve fans are celebrating this transfer, if they are the losers. ;)
Didn´t I mention I saw this guy 5-10 times in total? ;) Doesn´t really puts me in a position to judge him considering that I haven´t heard much of him besides my own very few observations.
 

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He is rated low by many juve fans, and i dont find the reason. 2 seasons ago when he got the chance by the end of the season he scored nice goals. Last season he wasnt bad at all, when he started in the first 7 or 8 matches i guess he scored 6 or 7 goals and then he was benched. They should have given him a good run.!
Let the juve fans be happy about del boy staying. They always support him no matter what, they are weird.

At Valencia,l if you will start with:
Vicente----Baraja----Albelda-----Rufete/Fiore
Corradi-------De Vaio------

This will leave Mista, Angulo and Aimar on the bench. Mista and Angulo could accept rotation but i dont guess Aimar will. Ranieri never used a clear play maker like Aimar before with Chelsea.He likes to press from the centre midfielders and i think thats why he asked for Fiore.
IMO Aimar can generate good money if he is sold, especially when many clubs are looking for someone with his abilities.
 
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Let´s say like this. You guys wouldn´t be happy at seeing a guy like Cruz (an okay player that performs when given the chance) for the same price as Di Vaio costed?

Do you guys realise how much money Juve got for a bench player? No wonder they are pleased.
 

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Jimmy said:
Let´s say like this. You guys wouldn´t be happy at seeing a guy like Cruz (an okay player that performs when given the chance) for the same price as Di Vaio costed?

Do you guys realise how much money Juve got for a bench player? No wonder they are pleased.

Of course we would. But let's say that this was a big chance for De Vaio to shine under Capello and perform well and when he is sold later, i am sure it would be more than this figure.

Cruz will never be sold with half the figure De Vaio got sold with, it is a reality.
 
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That´s exactly the point. Di Vaio has played more or less the same part for Juve as Cruz has done for us. Get some games, performs and ends up on the bench after some less good games.

And Juve manages to sell this player for a price above players like Van der Meyde and etc.

Juve has amde an incredible bargain. Di Vaio wasn´t gonna be a starter, and still they manage to sell him for such a price.
 
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