Stefano Pioli

[TiGrr]

With his retarded subs and decisions he demoralized the squad. He is not a BIG CLUB coach material. Like some ppl said he is a cowered. We could destroy Milan if we had the right coach...

Pioli

 

[rfU]

1) Don't be such a patronizing prick and then misstate facts: we have four World Cups

My bad, four. Why would I purposely misstate a fact that supports my position? Smh.

2) Your list of excuses skates around the fact that Serie A is miles behind the Bundesliga and La Liga in terms of quality, and England financially

arguement was that tactics and lack of passion are reasons why serie a lagging. That is false. Tactics and passion are why Serie A dominated europe for years. Of course Serie A is behind, I'm not blind to this.

 

[varmin]

I meant that tactics are always over the passion, not that they are wrong or irrelevant. This also is a main reason for Jube's fail against Bayern last CL. Allegri just did same as Pioli today - went back to defend the lead and allowed to germans to make a comeback.

 

[rfU]

I meant that tactics are always over the passion, not that they are wrong or irrelevant. This also is a main reason for Jube's fail against Bayern last CL. Allegri just did same as Pioli today - went back to defend the lead and allowed to germans to make a comeback.

Then how do you explain Atletic Madrid knocking out Bayern with the same tactic? Or us vs Bayern in the 2010 UCL final? How many shots did we have that game? 2-0 is a dangerous lead to have but we're not bayern, nor are we good at possession. What we are good at is inexplicable defensive lapses. Pioli knows. Bring on pacy Eder and Bibiany (for barely 10 minutes), play on the counter. Perfectly legitimate tactic. Unfortunately Milan responded better on the day. By the way conceding that corner was stupid. But that's our defence.

Be mad at Pioli over Crotone game. Or tactics vs Samp. Those were much worse.

 

[Ronin]

Maybe the Biabiany and Eder subs weren't bad, but the Murillo one totally changed the game and put us into much more pressure than we were before. Our midfield was thin. It would've made sense if he pushed Medel in the midfield and Murillo in defense alongside Miranda, but that wasn't what happened.

 

[Wallace]

That's a very typical Italian coach sub, I see nothing wrong with Pioli making that, considering he's Italian.

Countless of times Manshitni, Mazzarri, etc made the same moves.

We could have defended the lead with solidarity, but we conceded in today's game. It's not a tactical sub that will always work, even Mourinho conceded last minute before.

I guess the main problem is that he has big names like Banega rotting on the bench and our 30mil signing Gabigol sitting there forever that is driving people insane, but seriously, Biabiany's speed for counter makes more sense than Gabigol in this game, when we were determined to sit back and absorb pressure and when our crosses have gotten us two goals already.

 

[varmin]

Then how do you explain Atletic Madrid knocking out Bayern with the same tactic? Or us vs Bayern in the 2010 UCL final? How many shots did we have that game? 2-0 is a dangerous lead to have but we're not bayern, nor are we good at possession. What we are good at is inexplicable defensive lapses. Pioli knows. Bring on pacy Eder and Bibiany (for barely 10 minutes), play on the counter. Perfectly legitimate tactic. Unfortunately Milan responded better on the day. By the way conceding that corner was stupid. But that's our defence.

Be mad at Pioli over Crotone game. Or tactics vs Samp. Those were much worse.

Atleti are spanish team. They have solid discipline because of the Simeone but playing with heart as well. They give everythig for the coach.
Something like Mou's Inter in 2010. We have great coach with great players but they also loved him and give 100% on the pitch.
I agree that tactics are perfect but the performers are not. Bibiani is a joke. This is my point that you need palyers that care not only tactics. This is not a chess. You cannot win with players like Bibiani even with best tactics.

 

[morrisama]

if only Pioli wanted to try Banega and Mario together. our oppositions seem to have red our wide tactical game.

-Icardi-
-Perisic-Mario-
Kondogbia-Gagliardini-Banega

 

[Irequis]

Pioli's biggest fault are switching off after 2-0 lead and then subbing Murillo for Mario. Actually it is understandable if we cannot keep up our 1st half perfomance since we pressed them hard hence we ran out of stamina. Still, our performance from 75 min onward was a joke.

And I also think Biabiany and Eder substitution was the right one.
1. Biabiany is our quickest player and we need him for 2 jobs i.e. to counter attack and to help defence against merda's quick winger such as deulofeu, suso, and sosa. He is not our best player, but I cannot think other solutions especially about merda's winger.
2. Eder for Perisic is even more necessary as Perisic seemed not totally fit from the start. Eder's work rate should have make it easier for us to defend and to run forward for counter attack. The fact that he cannot connect easy pass is not Pioli's fault.

 

[JJM]

dead man walking...

 

[kurt0411]

Can't believe there are some people still defending him, he fucked it up. End of story

 

[Dogen]

Quoting someone I usually agree with from a recent interview: Pioli is a good coach overall, under normal circumstances.
But we're talking about Inter, and Inter needs an "hammerer" on the bench. It's nothing new, just the tradition of this club.

Everybody knows two specific names that fit the role, but realistically they will not be available for the 2017/2018 season.
If Suning turns Utopia into reality, hallelujah.
Anyway, there should be enough concern about the lack of "personality" on the field (even more urgent than the need of quality).

Post scriptum: yesterday's substitutions never happened.

 

[JJM]

When a coach joins Inter he gets mentally unstable after some months ... it's an Inter sickness tbh
Some get it sooner than later
Gasp lasted just the preseason, Mancini lasted the longest tbh but he was contaminated from before...Pioli got it after the Torino game
They just can't handle this insane pressure,ofc the players might be the reason why tbh... they are weaklings
How can you lose against Crotone if you are so much better on paper...this is a mentally weak team. Maybe because this environment is toxic,maybe because we have a fairly young and inexperienced team that needs growing still,we have no real winners amongst us
Miranda mildly won smth in his life...
The others didn't win shit in their professional careers
Oh yeah Banega won EL...but he is very inconsistent,might have caught the Inter sickness as well

 

[Ronaldo]

We can't keep blaming the coach. Yes, Pioli's had some questionable decisions but so does every other coach out there. Even Mourinho had some questionable decisions when he was here.

The answer is not always 'fire the coach'. How is it that Mazzari's Napoli was so entertaining to watch and they made it to CL every year but when he came here he was suddenly shit? How is it that Pioli's Lazio made it to CL but now at Inter he is shit? How is it that Rafa was shit here but he was so good at Napoli that De Laurantiis begged him to stay?

Since 2005 Napoli've had only 5 coaches and only one of them was fired mid-season. Now compare that to Inter; how many coaches have we had since 2005? How many of them were fired midseason?

This is all due to our weak management. They don't make the right the decision at the beginning, then fire the coach the moment things go south, rinse and repeat.

Yes, Pioli has his limitations but so do Spalletti, Allegri, Sarri and the rest. Trust me, if any of them were hired instead of Pioli they would've not achieved much better results.

How many coaches have we had since 2010? Which one of them did anything good at Inter? Firing Pioli would only make things worse. We need to have continiuty, give the coach proper support and be patient with them. Just look at our season: We had a coach (Mancini) who was the wrong coach for us from the beginning, had a disasterous preseason, left just before the season started, replaced by a noob coach who didn't know the league and couldn't even speak the language, fired the noob after 3 months, replaced him with Pioli and told Pioli either you get us CL or you are going to get replaced. Don't forget that since the first day that Pioli was appointed the rumors of a replacement didn't stop.

Could our season be any worse than this? How do you expect Pioli to work in such a hostile environment? How do you expect any coach to work in such a hostile environment?

There was some truth to that "either back me or sack me" phrase of Rafa.

I think any sane person would know what is the right decision here. We need to keep Pioli, invest in weak areas of our squad during summer, get rid of the deadweight, next year evaluate Pioli and decide early on if we want a new coach for the season after that.

Firing Pioli should only be acceptable if there is an obvious better replacement available.

No good has come from those impulsive coach firings so far and now no good would come from firing Pioli either.

 

[kurt0411]

Ehmmm not sure if you've actually been watching the matches or not?

 

[JJM]

Pioli showed everybody yesterday that he is a coward,he lost a practically won game with being a fucking pussy,retreating to df with 2-0 sure steady result...JM for JM(Lel)sub was a rookie fucking mistake,destablized the team to beyond recognition,with the archaic approach,we can't pull ourselves back to defend because our df is weak,we should keep on possession of the ball and Mario was doing it good(Mario questioned Pioli's future yesterday tbh!!!)
When does that pay off?! I tell you when...NEVER! Allegri fucked himself that way against Bayern last year for example,there is more evidence over the years of this,ah yeah BBilan against Liverpool in the final,Bbilan against Deportivo La Coruna years ago...

 

[Fapuccino]

Look at Romagnoli's goal, the entire team is withdrawn in the box. That's pussy football that will backfire.

When you sit back = you invite pressure. If you can't handle pressure, don't invite it.

 

[Keveen]

Pioli is getting it wrong by the day. Killing the confidence he once built by himself. What a shame!

 

[junkie]

the problem is not that he try to close the match but how he try to close the match....he is not pussy for doing that but he is a moron for how he does that...

Poslano sa mog SM-G920F koriste

 

[Ed.]

We can't keep blaming the coach. Yes, Pioli's had some questionable decisions but so does every other coach out there. Even Mourinho had some questionable decisions when he was here.

The answer is not always 'fire the coach'. How is it that Mazzari's Napoli was so entertaining to watch and they made it to CL every year but when he came here he was suddenly shit? How is it that Pioli's Lazio made it to CL but now at Inter he is shit? How is it that Rafa was shit here but he was so good at Napoli that De Laurantiis begged him to stay?

Since 2005 Napoli've had only 5 coaches and only one of them was fired mid-season. Now compare that to Inter; how many coaches have we had since 2005? How many of them were fired midseason?

This is all due to our weak management. They don't make the right the decision at the beginning, then fire the coach the moment things go south, rinse and repeat.

Yes, Pioli has his limitations but so do Spalletti, Allegri, Sarri and the rest. Trust me, if any of them were hired instead of Pioli they would've not achieved much better results.

How many coaches have we had since 2010? Which one of them did anything good at Inter? Firing Pioli would only make things worse. We need to have continiuty, give the coach proper support and be patient with them. Just look at our season: We had a coach (Mancini) who was the wrong coach for us from the beginning, had a disasterous preseason, left just before the season started, replaced by a noob coach who didn't know the league and couldn't even speak the language, fired the noob after 3 months, replaced him with Pioli and told Pioli either you get us CL or you are going to get replaced. Don't forget that since the first day that Pioli was appointed the rumors of a replacement didn't stop.

Could our season be any worse than this? How do you expect Pioli to work in such a hostile environment? How do you expect any coach to work in such a hostile environment?

There was some truth to that "either back me or sack me" phrase of Rafa.

I think any sane person would know what is the right decision here. We need to keep Pioli, invest in weak areas of our squad during summer, get rid of the deadweight, next year evaluate Pioli and decide early on if we want a new coach for the season after that.

Firing Pioli should only be acceptable if there is an obvious better replacement available.

No good has come from those impulsive coach firings so far and now no good would come from firing Pioli either.

It's true we can't keep blaming the coach but would you support a caretaker who did well in his first few matches only? Remember.. Strammaccioni?

I somehow always believed that Pioli is not the right man for this job, he could stabilize us but not maintain it or even grow further.

I never really expect Pioli to bring us to 3rd place although I hope it would be a dream comes true. Yet, reality is reality. Pioli is a caretaker.

Let's be honest here, the difference between Pioli and FdB is only 1. Players listen to Pioli more than FdB. We still play the same fucking way, we keep crossing from the sides.

I hoped that by the end of the season, I'd be able to say "Fuckin Frank de Boer, if only he didn't waste all our points early in the season we could have been third." Unfortunately, we are the stage where even if Frank de Boer didn't lose points against smaller teams, we're still a step behind.

We are currently 7th place and we lost against the top 4, drew once and won once. People say titles are won by beating smaller clubs, yet our situation shows if you can't beat anyone higher than you then you don't deserve to be on top.

I agree that Pioli should only be shown the door if a better one is in place. However, the more important point is we should plan from now. Get the coach ready from now as the remaining of the season doesn't matter anymore. We should use the next 2 months to plan out our strategy.

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Pioli's biggest fault are switching off after 2-0 lead and then subbing Murillo for Mario. Actually it is understandable if we cannot keep up our 1st half perfomance since we pressed them hard hence we ran out of stamina. Still, our performance from 75 min onward was a joke.

And I also think Biabiany and Eder substitution was the right one.
1. Biabiany is our quickest player and we need him for 2 jobs i.e. to counter attack and to help defence against merda's quick winger such as deulofeu, suso, and sosa. He is not our best player, but I cannot think other solutions especially about merda's winger.
2. Eder for Perisic is even more necessary as Perisic seemed not totally fit from the start. Eder's work rate should have make it easier for us to defend and to run forward for counter attack. The fact that he cannot connect easy pass is not Pioli's fault.

Yet he did none of those. What's the point of counter attack if the remaining of the team were dead tired..?