The PES Thread

[Universe]

Took a day off work sick today, gave me some unexpected free time so I played some more PES.

It is a lot more tolerable depending on my patience when I play. But I maintain that the AI inherently wears down that patience and I reaffirm that everything I said in my previous post is absolutely true:
- no matter how good your speed or physical contact is, against superstar and top player difficulty the AI will almost always dispossess you if you come within a 2m radius.
- the AI relies way, way too much on unpredictable and impossible long through passes. Now that I'm expecting this, I sit back a lot more and this certainly helps, but it is still alarming how you can lose the ball while attacking the opponents third and be chasing down a 1v1 in a matter of seconds. I suppose this is completely possible in real football too, but not in this manner. No matter how 'logically' you close down space, at times it feels like you're playing against fucking eleven Xavi's who can see into the future.

Anyway, I still haven't started a career mode, just played a handful of exhibition matches against various Serie A teams, usually juve. Played a few matches against Sassuolo. Spoiler, I lost.

I need help with my midfield, this shit is annoying me. I'm playing something like:



I've got all 3 of my midfielders set as CM's with Nainggolan as the most advanced CM, Brozovic as the LCM and Gagliardini or Vecigod as the RCM. But even though Nainggolan is the most forward of my midfielders, he is always the fucking deepest when I'm in possession, and the RCM is always the most advanced Whenever I've made space for a midfielder to shoot, it's always my fucking RCM instead of my most advanced CM. When i take a goal kick, it's Nainggolan (the most forward CM) who waits at the edge of the box to get the short goal kick. When I take corners, I've got both my CB's selected as "players to join attack" because they've got good heading stats obviously. But fucking Nainggolan is back at the halfway line defending instead of hanging around outside the box to shoot.

How do I fix this shit?

And I don't get how the players average score actually factors into their performance on the pitch, if it does at all. For example, if you set Nainggolan to AM, his overall is 80. If you set him as CM, it's 85. I guess it's just saying he's more suited to playing CM than AM? Or will he actually be worse if he plays AM? Surely not.

 

[Devious]

Vecigod I never used him so far, ever!

Just assign 9 as an AM, I tried both CM and AM and didnt feel much difference, so get him as AM and put him little deep.

I use the same formation with Gags as CM and Brozo as DM. In the second half Politano becomes slower and fatigued so I introduce Mr Keita bulletman and subs in Lautaro as AM instead of Gags then puts 9 back as CM, if Im down I usually end up winning the game with all out attack.

I didnt play that much with Inter, Im playing with Parma in Serie A and Inter seems to be dominating the league while Im battling relegation zone despite signing 5 not bad free agents. With every game I lose I set back like the kid in my avatar and grabbing the joystick like the grip in yours.

 

[brehme1989]

How do I get real names for the teams? On PS4. Asking now coz I'll forget by Sunday when I'll wanna play

 

[wera]

You buy FIFA.

 

[brehme1989]

You buy FIFA.

I'd buy FIFA if I wanted to stare at emblems and team names, I bought PES because I wanted to play the best football video game out there.

 

[Devious]

I edited them myself, I could share the edit file here if you want me to. I'll just have to upload it and share link.

 

[Devious]

Here you go https://files.fm/u/gvnnsp3p

Just download the file, get it in a USB device, connect to your ps4, copy it to your system and overwrite.

Ive edited teams names and leagues as well.

 

[brehme1989]

Thanks, will give it a try tomorrow and tell you how it went

 

[Devious]

Aiiigggght

 

[Devious]

Hey guys I found the patch for all teams and competitions including Bundisliga and Serie B, you can import all data from within the game edit -> import/export -> start importing teams and then import competitions etc..

https://www.mediafire.com/file/5iqw42fa65fb9sy/PESFan.it+FO+V6+Serie+B+-+2019.zip

Credit to these guys: https://www.pesteam.it/forum/threads/pesfan-it-fo-v6-pes-2019-ps4.28143/

Now the game is perfect.

btw Serie B replaces English second division.

 

[Shark]

Devious, da real MVP :heart:

 

[Devious]

Check this out, ought to fix some difficulty issues:

The gameplay improvements coming with Data Pack 2.0 on 25th October will include:

- COM opponents will now play less long passes from the centre of the pitch to the wing

- COM opponents will now play less low crosses from the wing

- COM opponents will now display enhanced understanding of opposing player positions and will attack the goal more aggressively

- COM opponents will now display improved logic concerning shooting, enabling them to take advantage of a greater variety of situations and opportunities

- Goal keepers will now display improved AI in 1v1 situations, ensuring that they rush out to meet players converging on the goal

- Fixed an issue that prevented defenders from positioning freely, causing them to occasionally become stuck behind opponents when competing for goal kicks and other high balls

- Improved the accuracy of headers on-goal performed by players who aren’t under pressure

- Adjusted the accuracy of chip shots

 

[n4l]

i want PSN id's or whatever so we could play online.

 

[Devious]

IP: DeviousRamy.

Ive just downloaded the new update, it sucks, it made the game so much fucken harder. Sure it has fixed the all-midfielders-pass-the-ball-like-xavi but it implemented all-forwards-finish-like-Pelle instead.

Also to some extent they made defending harder again. Almost every touch is a fucken foul.

Im fucken frustrated.

 

[n4l]

Legend mode is insane. CPU tackling and bodying you off the ball is crazy...

 

[Universe]

Fucking Konami.

We have PES listed on our official website under "official partners" as "global football video game partner". I thought us partnering with PES would mean they gave us much more attention. Sure, Icardi and Candreva got their fucking tattoos imported into the game But Data Pack 2.0 was released a few days ago, and how can you update player faces for the likes of fucking Izzo, Biabiany and Marchetti but provide ZERO face updates for any Inter players? even though we are a specific global football partner of PES, even though their logo is all over our fucking stadium and our instagram lineup posts etc. Even though we are by far the bigger club, have more exposure, have higher profile players than dozens of these worthless face updates.

How can you prioritise a face update to a shitter like Halilovic, who has played zero minutes this season? Brozovic was a huge protagonist in Croatia's World Cup run and is getting tons of media attention for his crocodile move and shit, and he's still stuck with the same wrong-looking custom face from 2014. Skriniar, De Vrij and Nainggolan are all marketable, high skilled, high value and well-known players who all have a unrealistic face from several versions ago. But Romulo and Sandro need updates faces?

Someone like Kevin Lasagna got some exposure this year (despite being crap) and his exposure and higher public profile was (correctly) addressed by Konami by giving him a realistic face in the latest data pack. So why the fuck does Politano still have a generic sim face? I don't care about fucking boots or any of that shit.

 

[Devious]

I think this is the first time in years they fuck up with the faces that bad, they didnt even bother to fix Nainggolan's haircut.

How is the difficulty? Did you notice anything after the Data update?

 

[n4l]

I did the data pack but then went straight to legend mode. The only difference I'm seeing difficulty-wise is that they stopped doing all of the endless 1-2/wall pass long balls to wings that are always perfect and always making your defender turn like he's on ice.

Otherwise, same level of cheating that makes you angry ...biggest one for me is they play these crosses, both on the ground or through the air that travel really fast (so that you don't have time to manually move your defender towards the ball), that your defender attempts a standing header or sometimes do nothing, and their striker easily scores.

 

[Universe]

Only just got around to playing the new data pack 2.0. The only way I knew there was any kind of gameplay update was the posts in this thread. Otherwise as mentioned, it seems like the CPU passing is more realistic? It was a little bit hard to tell for me.

I swear to god, previously, if you just held your ground and marked an area of space while defending against an opponent, the fucking cunt CPU would literally dribble the ball in circles over and over until you closed him down - which is when he would hit a perfect, defence-splitting pass through your defenders legs. I didn't notice any of that this time. But the act of closing down in itself still seems bullshit. You can smartly mark the space and close an opponent down, but they'll always find a way to squeeze the ball past you, even if your defender is practically within ass-fucking distance. On the other hand, when you attack, if you come within 3m of an opponent, they'll steal the ball off you as if it were magnetized to their feet.

Also, the shooting seems a tiny bit different? I hated the fact that it's almost impossible to score with a low shot, but it seemed a bit better today.

As for what Devious is saying about forwards, yea, I conceded three goals against a CPU, and they were all unstoppable rockets into the top corner - one from a volley outside the box and the other two from a 1v1 finish. Seriously, when the fuck does a forward shoot with max power, with both feet lifting into the air, when they're 10m away from goal and 1 on 1 with the goalkeeper? What kind of retardation is that?

 

[Devious]

Spot on marking spaces issue, it fucken left me throwing the joystick a couple of times, I mean I'd be closing down onto the only 2 available players the ball holder could pass the ball to on the wing, and still somehow he passes the ball, it passes inches near my players without them even attempting to cut it. Like what am I supposed to do?

Also about the defending, when Im chasing a CPU while controlling my player, the CPU always seem to be alot faster than mine, even if his speed attributes is not high, but if I switched my player who's chasing the opponent CPU to be controlled by the computer by pressing the L1 and square to press, only then my player who's now controlled by the computer start running way faster than the opponent, he chases him down, gets past him easily, then usually cuts the ball. So why am I not allowed to do that when controlling my player, where the CPU could ? Am I doing something wrong??

So Im through with the high difficulty crap Im now playing Professional difficulty, and it's cooler with less nerve breaking shit. Maybe If I feel like start dominating that difficulty I'd switch to Top Player. I occasionally play superstar difficulty but only if I'm playing with a strong team though.