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Conte had probably better players(Hakimi, Perisic) but his team was not better than Limone's. With Limone we played final of CL and gonna win scudetto. In last two years. Limone>Conte.
 

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Conte team was better
I don't think so. Handanovic was already declining, so I'd say that Sommer looks more reliable than him right now. Pavard is definitely > Skriniar. Acerbi maybe is slightly better than SDV. Hakan is better than Brozo as registra. Mkhitaryan is more useful than Eriksen or Gagliardini/Vecino. Lukaku was in top form, so I'd say that he was more influential than Thuram. Hakimi is > >> Dumfries/Darmian. And I'd put Perisic and Dimarco on par as they are equally useful. Today's bench is better imo. SDV, Augusto, Darmian/Dumfries, Frattesi, even Bisseck and Asllani.
 

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Pavard had more brainfarts this season than Skriniar in his entire Inter tenure.
Pavard offers more than Skriniar imo. Skriniar was almost always fooled by pacy and technical players, and his ass was covered by other defenders. His build up play was poor as well. Many of his passes were overpowered or intercepted. in the second season of Conte, Inter played much more defensive than with Inzaghi now. That also benefits player like Skriniar.
 
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I don't think so. Handanovic was already declining, so I'd say that Sommer looks more reliable than him right now. Pavard is definitely > Skriniar. Acerbi maybe is slightly better than SDV. Hakan is better than Brozo as registra. Mkhitaryan is more useful than Eriksen or Gagliardini/Vecino. Lukaku was in top form, so I'd say that he was more influential than Thuram. Hakimi is > >> Dumfries/Darmian. And I'd put Perisic and Dimarco on par as they are equally useful. Today's bench is better imo. SDV, Augusto, Darmian/Dumfries, Frattesi, even Bisseck and Asllani.
Mostly agree but I think prime Perisic was better than Dimarco. Plus Hakimi who is a space shuttle to any of ours rwb right now.. Those are two crucial positions in 3 5 2 and that makes Conte team on paper much stronger. Lukaku was also great that season, he was in his prime. Limone did fantastic job. Hope his team wont be crippled again this summer.
 

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Mostly agree but I think prime Perisic was better than Dimarco. Plus Hakimi who is a space shuttle to any of ours rwb right now.. Those are two crucial positions in 3 5 2 and that makes Conte team on paper much stronger. Lukaku was also great that season, he was in his prime. Limone did fantastic job. Hope his team wont be crippled again this summer.
Prime Perisic was under first season with Inzaghi. During Conte, he was good, but not outstanding. Lukaku was great because of Conte, same how Mkhitaryan is great because of Inzaghi.
It's difficult comparison, but I'm enjoying more to watch Inzaghi's Inter for sure.
 

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Prime Perisic was under first season with Inzaghi. During Conte, he was good, but not outstanding. Lukaku was great because of Conte, same how Mkhitaryan is great because of Inzaghi.
It's difficult comparison, but I'm enjoying more to watch Inzaghi's Inter for sure.
Perisic was the same player maybe it has to do to with a way Conteball functions.
 

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Prime Perisic was a far better player than Dimarco saying otherwise is just ridiculous. Prime Perisic scored 11 goals in serie A and team always had an eye for him and put players on him because of his threat. Prime perisic had far worse players around than what Dimarco had ever to ever endure here and even past prime Perisic had in truth more impact. I’m not trying to take anything away from Dimarco but even putting him on same shelf as Perisic is kinda ridiculous, I seriously wonder how much you guys actually watched Perisic in his prime and no prime perisic was not while under Inzaghi, that was past prime perisic.

Dimarco is more a fighter and a diesel engine, but from pure technical, shooting etc. list of ability he isn’t anywhere near Perisic in his prime.

Hakimi is no debate he was a monster at his short tenure here, he make the once we have now look like serie b players in comparison and was the best we had since Maicon.

Saying Pavard is better than Skriniar is kinda weird, knowing how many mistakes and poor decisions he make doing a game… defensively he is worse than Skriniar, offensively and on the ball he is better. Make it a toss up if you must. De Vrij was an absolute monster under Conte because he knew how to get him to perform to his best, just like Inzaghi done with Acerbi, again it’s mostly a toss up.

Also I didn’t write that Conte team was better in fact, I wrote this and Conte team are the best we had since 2010. Both of those teams have arguably their strengths and weaknesses compared to one another, but both are noticeable weaker than our 2010 team, which is my point and both mainly look good because of all the shit teams we had to endure for nearly 10 years prior.

It’s Inzaghi that make Miki good because he knows how to use him same with Hakan, Brozovic was almost always great regardless of coach and tactical system. He helped us so much even through hard times and was one of our best players for long periods it’s a bit disrespectful saying Miki or Hakan is better when they never had to endure what he had alone he was way more impactful truth be told.
 
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Prime Perisic was a far better player than Dimarco saying otherwise is just ridiculous. Prime Perisic scored 11 goals in serie A and team always had an eye for him and put players on him because of his threat. Prime perisic had far worse players around than what Dimarco had ever to ever endure here and even past prime Perisic had in truth more impact. I’m not trying to take anything away from Dimarco but even putting him on same shelf as Perisic is kinda ridiculous, I seriously wonder how much you guys actually watched Perisic in his prime and no prime perisic was not while under Inzaghi, that was past prime perisic.
That "prime perisic" you are talking about played LW in a 4231 though. Why are you comparing that to Dimarco playing LWB in a 352?

Seems like an incredibly flawed comparison.
 

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Perisic was monster under Inzaghi, not Conte. In our champion season he has less than 5 goals in serie A iirc. He was still very solid defensively, that is the reason to put him on par with Dimarco.
SDV and Skriniar were good mainly because Conte's counter attacking style. I said that Pavard is better because he offers more overall, but this is my personal opinion. Acerbi and De Vrij were equally important for their respective coaches, so I can agree to put them on par as well.
And for me, Conte teams wasn't better overall. Few superior players here, few inferior players there, but there is no overwhelming difference in the quality.
Inzaghi's bench is better, and this is also very important factor.
 

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This thread took a weird turn but since we are on the subject ... Mourinho's Inter was stronger overall but Inzaghi's current Inter is way more entertaining. Mourinho would have never played like this and would have never taken so many risks. Both are some of the strongest teams Inter had but that 2010 team was something else. With a finisher like Milito you can easily argue that this Inter may have reached new heights.
 

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This thread took a weird turn but since we are on the subject ... Mourinho's Inter was stronger overall but Inzaghi's current Inter is way more entertaining. Mourinho would have never played like this and would have never taken so many risks. Both are some of the strongest teams Inter had but that 2010 team was something else. With a finisher like Milito you can easily argue that this Inter may have reached new heights.
Well, beating probably the best Barca ever 3 1 was more entertaining than anything this Inter did.
 

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Atletico being eliminated by a mediocre Borussia Dortmund team just shows that we could've and should've done better. We missed a golden opportunity to go at least to the semis.
 

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Atletico being eliminated by a mediocre Borussia Dortmund team just shows that we could've and should've done better. We missed a golden opportunity to go at least to the semis.
Why do you think we could beat Dortmund?
 

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Because they are not that good. Sitting on 5th place in Bundesliga and are on paper an average team anyway.
Thats a wrong logic. We would never be last season finalist of CL based on our domestic league performances. Dortmund has a really good players, coach, gameplan, style, and in 2 games they can beat anyone (except City or Real).
 

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Dortmund and PSG playing the semi final while they were in the same group as well :lol:
 

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Atletico is a worst fit for us than Borussia. We could easily be in the semis against PSG if we had Angel Correa as 3th striker instead of Arna.
 
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