England National team

Dylan said:

I don't see why anyone would leave that Spurs side, so much potential.

Unless Jose makes a return :troll:

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Considering your Irish, would it be fair to say that your care factor for England's NT is zero ?????

no one dislikes england more than me, however even i have to admit that there is enough talent there to be a force internationally, if they get great manager who can handle all the wankers they have. Redknapp could be that man.

Calzo said:

no one dislikes england more than me, however even i have to admit that there is enough talent there to be a force internationally, if they get great manager who can handle all the wankers they have. Redknapp could be that man.

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wankers is the best word to describe that team.

But i'm not convinced with there current squad. Every 4-5 years England comes up with a team and say "this one is it" but then fail at a major tournament.

I4E said:

Considering your Irish, would it be fair to say that your care factor for England's NT is zero ?????

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True that

Also they're squad is hideously overrated. Rooney is the only one there who could compete in the majority of teams easily.

I like Micah Richards though, he's a beast!

Dylan said:

True that

Also they're squad is hideously overrated. Rooney is the only one there who could compete in the majority of teams easily.

I like Micah Richards though, he's a beast!

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Your so right.

The English tabloids/media are so good at pumping them up. Quite sickening tbh.

Calzo said:

consensus here is that, well not that he is incompetent, but that he is definitely NOT the man for the job. I can imagine the majority of English people will be very relieved with this news. And also that the vast majority of English people will want Harry Redknapp, who IMO is much better suited to the England job.

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Capello had the highest winning percentage of any England NT manager in the last 70 years...

and you suggest Redknapp would be better than Capello...yikes

vitomins said:

Capello had the highest winning percentage of any England NT manager in the last 70 years...

and you suggest Redknapp would be better than Capello...yikes

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hmmmm yeah, ok so they can beat the likes of Montenegro in qualifying easily, hence the high percentage, but then when they get to the big tournaments, they always fail. For fucks sake, stats arent everything

and yes, redknapp would be better, as he could, as i said in my last post, keep the wankers in check. u ask ANY englishman, ANY and they will tell u that redknapp would be better than capello

Calzo said:

hmmmm yeah, ok so they can beat the likes of Montenegro in qualifying easily, hence the high percentage, but then when they get to the big tournaments, they always fail. For fucks sake, stats arent everything

and yes, redknapp would be better, as he could, as i said in my last post, keep the wankers in check. u ask ANY englishman, ANY and they will tell u that redknapp would be better than capello

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Listening to what the fans want is the exact reason why the English NT has been a joke for such a long time. WTF has Redknapp done to make you consider he is even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence as Capello?? Capello is one of the greatest managers of modern time, Redknapp has been managing for 30 years and his biggest triumph is an FA Cup.

He is just another Steve McClaren or Kevin Keegan...sacked in less than 20 matches.

Helenio Herrera & Franz Beckenbauer together with Mourinho and SAF as assistants couldn't manage England to a trophy.

Who ever they appoint will just fail.

thats almost laughable... he has taken totenham from obscurity to the champions league, and possibly even title contenders. he was good with portsmouth too - look what happened to them as soon as he left. and the point about the biggest thing hes one in 30 year is an FA cup, look at the teams hes managed. other than totenham maybe, do u think anyone of them are title contenting sides ? are they fuck.

anyway, u are missing the point of the main argument for redknapp. He is english, and is universally respected within england, and is retarded currently as the best english manager there is, whos main stregnth is (which is a well known fact) that he is an exellent man-manager, and (for the 3rd time now) would be able to handle the various wankers within the england squad, who have the talent, but not the right mentality.

anyway, if it wasnt for his previous reputation, capello would have been sacked a long time ago

i dont even know why im entertaining this, i couldnt give less of a fuck either way

Calzo said:

thats almost laughable... he has taken totenham from obscurity to the champions league, and possibly even title contenders. he was good with portsmouth too - look what happened to them as soon as he left. and the point about the biggest thing hes one in 30 year is an FA cup, look at the teams hes managed. other than totenham maybe, do u think anyone of them are title contenting sides ? are they fuck.

anyway, u are missing the point of the main argument for redknapp. He is english, and is universally respected within england, and is retarded currently as the best english manager there is, whos main stregnth is (which is a well known fact) that he is an exellent man-manager, and (for the 3rd time now) would be able to handle the various wankers within the england squad, who have the talent, but not the right mentality.

anyway, if it wasnt for his previous reputation, capello would have been sacked a long time ago

i dont even know why im entertaining this, i couldnt give less of a fuck either way

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He has only won more than half of his games as manager at one club. Tottenham. Where he has won 50.5% of his games lol Besides his great finishes in the lower levels of England, he has not done nothing of note.

West Ham
1994-95: 14th place
1995-96: 10th place
1996-97: 14th Place
1997-98: 8th place
1998-99: 5th place
1999-00: 9th place
2000-01: 15th place

Portsmouth
2003-04: 13th place
2005-06: 17th place
2006-07: 9th place
2007-08: 8th place

Southhampton
2004-05: 20th place

Tottenham
2008-09: 8th place
2009-10: 4th place
2010-11: 5th place


Took Tottenham from obscurity?

2006-07: 5th place
2005-06: 5th place

He bumped them up one spot into 4th place, big fuckin deal. I just cannot understand how you can say Capello would have been sacked. Do you understand he has the highest winning percentage as an England manager since....EVER?!



Why am I arguing this...is there really anyone else in this world that thinks Harry fuckin Redknapp is a better manager than Capello?? Maybe I am just crazy??

How the hell can Harry Redknapp be a better manager than Capello with what he's won? Outside of the two titles revoked of course, he's had 7 domestic titles and a CL title.

All Redknapp has is an FA cup and promoting Portsmouth.

Calzo said:

thats almost laughable... he has taken totenham from obscurity to the champions league, and possibly even title contenders. he was good with portsmouth too - look what happened to them as soon as he left. and the point about the biggest thing hes one in 30 year is an FA cup, look at the teams hes managed. other than totenham maybe, do u think anyone of them are title contenting sides ? are they fuck.

anyway, u are missing the point of the main argument for redknapp. He is english, and is universally respected within england, and is retarded currently as the best english manager there is, whos main stregnth is (which is a well known fact) that he is an exellent man-manager, and (for the 3rd time now) would be able to handle the various wankers within the england squad, who have the talent, but not the right mentality.

anyway, if it wasnt for his previous reputation, capello would have been sacked a long time ago

i dont even know why im entertaining this, i couldnt give less of a fuck either way

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vitomins said:

Took Tottenham from obscurity?

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yes, they were hovering around the relegation zone when he took charge, and now...

vitomins said:

I just cannot understand how you can say Capello would have been sacked.

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England have never really had trouble qualifying for tournaments in recent times (other than euro 2008). There problems come in the tournaments when they choke. Lets see what this almighty Capello, tactical genius acheved.

-outplayed by average USA
-a miserable goalless draw with algeria
-could only muster a 1-0 win against slovenia
-other than a breif 10 minute spell they were completely outplayed, outcoached, and humiliated by the germans

and u cant see why he might have been sacked? it was a disaster from start to finish.

vitomins said:

Do you understand he has the highest winning percentage as an England manager since....EVER?!

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For the very last time. Please at least try to understand. YES ENGLAND CAN BEAT SHITTY TEAMS IN QUALIFYING ROUNDS (hence the high percentage) BUT THEY FAIL IN THE TOURNAMENTS WHEN THE PRESSURE IS ON. winning percentage means fuck all if u can at least even make a good showing in games that matter.

vitomins said:

is there really anyone else in this world that thinks Harry fuckin Redknapp is a better manager than Capello??

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yes, there is. the fucking english people. I wish an englishman would show up and verify this.

Look, im NOT saying redknapp is better than capello, OK? what im saying is he is BETTER SUITED to the job. understand?

-If it was for the Italy job, id take Capello
-If it was for germany, id take capello
-If it was for idk fucking Equatorial Guinea id take capello
-If it was for ENGLAND id take the ENGLISH manager, redknapp

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Dylan said:

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fuck u dyl

No matter who is in charge England is gonna do fuck all at the Euros...

Stuart Pearce will be in charge for the match against Dutch

England NT with any manager is boring to watch, Pearce will take them to new low

I dont think they can even qualify from group stage. Rooney will miss first 2 games and Wilshere is doubt for Euros.

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Dylan said:

True that

Also they're squad is hideously overrated. Rooney is the only one there who could compete in the majority of teams easily.

I like Micah Richards though, he's a beast!

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Thats bit harsh tbh. They have got few good players like Rooney, Hart, Wilshere, Richards, Cole.

But the youngsters they have now are different from the one they had. Players like Wilshere, Cleverley, Ox, Rodwell, Welbeck, (To and extent) Sturridge all play like a team. They are more of a team players than Gerrards, Lampards of previous team.

Potentially they have good team, but current team is meh except Rooney, Hart, Wilshere, Richards. (Not including Smalling as he is not regular yet).

Lol at capello resigning over scum like terry. Should never have reinstated him in the first place.

Calzo said:

yes, they were hovering around the relegation zone when he took charge, and now...



England have never really had trouble qualifying for tournaments in recent times (other than euro 2008). There problems come in the tournaments when they choke. Lets see what this almighty Capello, tactical genius acheved.

-outplayed by average USA
-a miserable goalless draw with algeria
-could only muster a 1-0 win against slovenia
-other than a breif 10 minute spell they were completely outplayed, outcoached, and humiliated by the germans

and u cant see why he might have been sacked? it was a disaster from start to finish.



For the very last time. Please at least try to understand. YES ENGLAND CAN BEAT SHITTY TEAMS IN QUALIFYING ROUNDS (hence the high percentage) BUT THEY FAIL IN THE TOURNAMENTS WHEN THE PRESSURE IS ON. winning percentage means fuck all if u can at least even make a good showing in games that matter.



yes, there is. the fucking english people. I wish an englishman would show up and verify this.

Look, im NOT saying redknapp is better than capello, OK? what im saying is he is BETTER SUITED to the job. understand?

-If it was for the Italy job, id take Capello
-If it was for germany, id take capello
-If it was for idk fucking Equatorial Guinea id take capello
-If it was for ENGLAND id take the ENGLISH manager, redknapp

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fuck u dyl

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- We were hovering around the relegation zone when Ranieri took charge, does that mean we came from obscurity? Obscurity means you are at the lower end of the table forever and are brought up to the top for the first time. Tottenham finished 5th in back to back seasons two years before he took charge.

- If you feel England was outplayed by USA in the World Cup, I will not even bother to discuss this point further because that is a complete joke.

- So if England can beat the shitty teams in qualification, then why do the former managers not have a higher winning percentage? blivious: Capello went through 2 qualifying campaigns and a World Cup and still has the highest percentage ever. If they do so well in qualifying, then why are there no managers, that only went through qualifying, higher than Capello?

- The manager that is BETTER SUITED, is the BETTER manager. Just because he is English, does not mean he will be a good fit. The best managers for England in the last 15 years were Swedish and Italian.

monster09 said:

Thats bit harsh tbh. They have got few good players like Rooney, Hart, Wilshere, Richards, Cole.

But the youngsters they have now are different from the one they had. Players like Wilshere, Cleverley, Ox, Rodwell, Welbeck, (To and extent) Sturridge all play like a team. They are more of a team players than Gerrards, Lampards of previous team.

Potentially they have good team, but current team is meh except Rooney, Hart, Wilshere, Richards. (Not including Smalling as he is not regular yet).

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Hart, good goalkeeper, fair enough may be one of the top 5 in the tournament.
Rooney Yeah
Wilshere - I thought he wouldn't be fit until a few weeks before the tournament? Either way I'd say good, but not starting standard for the teams they want to beat to win.
Richards, is he even in the squad? I like him though.
Cole - Meh, I don't see anythong great in him. The lack of many good LB's in the world make him seem better.

Dylan said:

Hart, good goalkeeper, fair enough may be one of the top 5 in the tournament.
Rooney Yeah
Wilshere - I thought he wouldn't be fit until a few weeks before the tournament? Either way I'd say good, but not starting standard for the teams they want to beat to win.
Richards, is he even in the squad? I like him though.
Cole - Meh, I don't see anythong great in him. The lack of many good LB's in the world make him seem better.

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Cole is on the decline, but as you said, lack of good LBs make him valuable player. I would prefer Baines though (Given the choice) but he is very experienced player so he will play ahead of Baines.

Richards was ignored by Capello, but new manager will surely select him. He is the best RB in the league this season.