2009/2010 Defenders rumours topic

[Luka]

We were considering Kolarov already in January, and with Lazio playing as they do now, it will be miracle if we won't get Kolarov in the summer (Lolito will have to take a lot of cash back for not qualifing for Europe).

Chivu was never bought to be a left back at Inter. He can play there, so can Gerrard as AM, but that doesn't mean that is the position where they give their 100%.

 

[Stefan]

Apparently we plan to regain control of bonucci but leave him at genoa for a while.

http://translate.google.com/transla...read&idnotizia=15383&sl=it&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

 

[Inter Siamo Noi]

I don't think we're gonna spend 15 million Euros to plan for someone to be our 4th choice defender.

Because it I prefer Bonucci, only 5 milion euro. Bonus: He also Inter product.

 

[Stefan]

Because it I prefer Bonucci, only 5 milion euro. Bonus: He also Inter product.

Ranocchia is the better player. The inter product thing is of no concern bonucci doesn't qualify as a home grown player for the uefa rules so he has no added value.

 

[rsz85]

I don't think we're gonna spend 15 million Euros to plan for someone to be our 4th choice defender.

we can't predict that now can we.

1, As you mentioned, we cant predict the order of CBs.

2, 15 million is not too much for a 22 yr CB, who can be a very long solution (10+ years) even if in the starting season he is considered as a sub.
He would learn alot from Materazzi in 10-11 season, than he can go up on the ranks and if he performs well, im sure he will starts a lot.

As our CB-situation stands now, after 2012 he would be the rock of our defense and for this role everybody needs time.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Ranocchia is the better player. The inter product thing is of no concern bonucci doesn't qualify as a home grown player for the uefa rules so he has no added value.

Have you seen them so much to say the difference?

To me getting both of them would be ideal. More Italian blood to our squad, which is always good because of their tendency to stay in the team (Italian team & Italian player -> doesn't want to leave the team to another country so easily, even if they rise to world class level).

Both are young and developing but already starters for a Serie A team. The price is not something like 20m€ per player. Given the relationship with Moratti and Preziosi, we can surely make a good business with them

 

[Stefan]

Have you seen them so much to say the difference?

To me getting both of them would be ideal. More Italian blood to our squad, which is always good because of their tendency to stay in the team (Italian team & Italian player -> doesn't want to leave the team to another country so easily, even if they rise to world class level).

Both are young and developing but already starters for a Serie A team. The price is not something like 20m€ per player. Given the relationship with Moratti and Preziosi, we can surely make a good business with them

Listen to the experts when they talk of the two players. There is also a reason clubs are willing to pay more for ranocchia.

Also have a look at bari's defence with ranocchia and without him. He was the leader of the defence.

Bonucci is a very good defender but from the stats,what people say and the little I have seen ranocchia is the better player.

Sure it would be ideal to get both with ranocchia coming now and bonucci later but if it comes to a choice there is no doudt who I would pick.

I won't get into that italian debate again. All I will say is go and look at the great examples that canna,vieri,c.zanetti has set while at inter. Only matrix and toldo has been loyal as far as italian players go, our foreign players have been just as loyal if not more than a lot of the italian players.

 

[CafeCordoba]

With Vieri, there even wasn't a problem, he was not good enough so he had to be shipped out (bought out).

Cannavaro's transfer was the most bizarre one, he was Moggi-bound. Zanetti wanted to go to Capello's team because he felt he could get more playing time there (idea failed big time).

The point is, if Italian players grow to stardom while at Inter, there is a smaller chance they want to go to another team, for example to foreign team (ManU, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc.) than if the player is let's say Brazilian. None of those you mentioned grew to stardom at Inter.

I'm sure you understand the difference. Argentineans may be a special foreign group because of their roots in Italy. But I'd still rate Italians ahead of them simply because Argentineans are already out of their homeland, they have a smaller treshhold to change the scenery because they've already done. Italians may have some kind blockage in this aspect and no motivation to change the country.

Of course that may change if Italian football keeps going downhill like it looks it's going, then Italians are maybe not so reluctant to go playing abroad (money, success). But IMO that doesn't concern Inter as much as other "lesser" clubs.

 

[Handoyo]

Don't wanna get into the Italians-are-more-loyal debate again. I just wanna say that I can't believe that those words came from you Cafe. Always thought you're the more cynical one who would side with the who-gives-a-damn-about-nationality, with me & Stefan.

I'm happy that Ranocchia is Italian just for one thing: We can use him as part of the UEFA requirement for the squad list or something? I honestly admit that I haven't followed that in detail even though it was greatly elaborated here.

 

[snowforum180]

Well the only reason we dont really have italians is because not many italians are good enough for Inter.
I hope that Italy starts producing some major talents, because this current crop "Italian national team" suck.

 

[VLE]

We have two different CB roles. Materazzi/Samuel stays back and controls defense line and plays manmark/sweeper, while Lucio/Cordoba sits between the defense line and DM, covering Maicon and any gap made between defense line and midfield.

Ranocchia, just like Samuel, controls defense line, manmarks and cuts aerial balls in Bari. Bonucci plays Lucio role.

Different roles, different players. We will need Ranocchia more due to Materazzi aging and Samuel getting injured from time to time, but Bonucci wouldn't be bad to replace Cordoba as well.

But then, Cordoba would still hold for a year or two, and there would be absolutely no place for Bonucci for those years. There was a reason why we sent him on loan despite his good form on his debut. Would Bonucci be satisfied if we loan him again until there's a space available when we forgot about him after the initial loan and sold him? I don't know.

 

[rockball]

Well the only reason we dont really have italians is because not many italians are good enough for Inter.
I hope that Italy starts producing some major talents, because this current crop "Italian national team" suck.

Haha. Wait till vito blasts you.

 

[vitomins]

Haha. Wait till vito blasts you.

LOL I am containing myself rockball...another comment like that may send me over the edge though...

 

[CafeCordoba]

Bonucci says if he had a chance to choose his club, he would choose Inter.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//www.fcinternews.it/%3Faction%3Dread%26idnotizia%3D15523&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1

 

[rockball]

I read that too. Its kinda sad since we are rumoured to Ranocchia. And I don't want Bonucci getting vengeful like Acquafresca did.

 

[Nero Indigo]

He won't be, we don't have an option to bring him back like we did with Aquafresca (Especially after shining in a season).

 

[Fitzy]

I think we'll end up with both Ranocchia and Bonucci in a few years. The relationship between Inter and Genoa seems to be very good. Now I'm reading on fcinternews that we are interested in Criscito... imagine if in 5 years or so we had the entire Italian national team backline in our lineup .

 

[vasilios]

I think we'll end up with both Ranocchia and Bonucci in a few years. The relationship between Inter and Genoa seems to be very good. Now I'm reading on fcinternews that we are interested in Criscito... imagine if in 5 years or so we had the entire Italian national team backline in our lineup .

yeah, I saw the Criscito thing, but I can't believe Juve and Genoa would be dumb enough to do that. Hopefully they prove me wrong.

 

[rsz85]

Inter wants a Santon-Ranocchia-Bonucci-Crisito defense in 1-2 years?

 

[Alex de Large]

I say 3-4... Lucio and Samuel still have 2-3 great years to come. And Maicon is a machine.