André Onana

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  • 3 - Anonymous player who will never be remembered through the fact nobody expected anything from him

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  • 2 - Close to a useless player, who will add nothing to the team besides filling the CL quota

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CafeCordoba

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First part holds true in general but we can't tell if this is valid here. But for someone who lived in Barcelona, Amsterdam and Milano, I think you're getting somewhere here :D

But let's be real. At Manchester United is showing exactly what we feared when we signed him - plus the 10 month inactivity - because this is what he's known for. His weaknesses are highlighted and exaggerated because Manchester United is a bad team, with zero cohesion at the back and the whole environment in this marketing frenzy era where these players face no pressure on a daily or even weekly basis, is just taxing on all that.

He was not a "top goalkeeper" for us, he started off quite bad, similar to his Manchester United level. Remember Bayern games, Barcelona game away and several Serie A games until we fixed our defense. He hardly made any saves that were crucial and those came in February. He's had a good spell, especially that Porto game was incredible and enabled us to get our heads high once again. Had one great save vs Benfica when the entire thing was settled but could be blamed for like all three goals we conceded at the home game as well. We obliterated Milan and allowed them like zero chances. He deserves praise for allowing us to expand our playing from the back and he was part of a cohesive unit where everyone was sticking to their role. He doesn't have that now. But having that meant that it was an easy job overall. He arguably stepped up twice in the entire season where he gave us points/qualification. That's not enough to rate him so high as people have been doing. That was an irrational behavior from the majority of FIF.

I do agree that we should have gotten more for him, but not because he's a top goalkeeper. He's a good goalkeeper that has a few great moments but many more hillariously bad ones. We were lucky that he didn't have that many with us, especially when it mattered. Because if you want to check howlers, he's had his share with us, too. But most didn't cost us. Salernitana was one that everyone remembers, but in most times our defense was quick to fix the mistake. At Manchester United, they're not.

Once we fixed our defense, Onana started to look good. Because he was rarely under pressure. Now he constantly is. He's never been in this situation either. At Ajax they were always in control, too. And that's how he was raised with Barcelona. And Cameroon mostly dominates in Africa. He's not used to being in a circus and now he's labeled as the lead clown, which is rough on him. He doesn't deserve all this criticism, but you rise much higher than you're supposed to (hype) and you fall much harder.
Very well explained. These are the reasons he's "sucking" at United. Because they thought Onana is some short of saviour for them. But the whole team is a mess and bringing in "libero" GK doesn't help one bit in that situation. The team needs to be a unit for that to work, like it wokred at Inter.

One thing I don't agree tho. You say he isn't a top keeper and while we got top3 amount for all goalkeepers ever in his sale, we should have got more in the sale? Nah man, I think we got a great price out of him precisely because he is NOT a top keeper. That CL run was a great marketing campaign for selling Onana but as you explained, he was mostly "hidden" there in terms of the team being a cohesive unit. Chelsea went for a cheaper option. There was just one buyer.
 

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This is the second player I see getting picked for the resurgence.
It's not accurate.

Under Onana we had the same terrible results as with Handanovic, probably even worse.
The other player mentioned is Lukaku. Also not true.

The player whose return coincided with our resurgence was Marcelo Brozovic and also the fact that Mkhitaryan grew to his role and became integral.

The turnaround came during the Benfica games and that's also when we had everybody back. And I do mean everyone. There is no one player that made that happen.
Onana may have sparked it with his Porto performances, but aside from that he wasn't the catalyst in gaining results. But his ability to play from the back enabled some results obviously.

Everything else is just revisionist favoritism.

It's exactly coentrary to what you are saying because since Onana was introduced to starting line-up, defence has gotten better in every aspect. More confidence, more compact between each other, far more communication (since Handa was never good at it) and most importantly he contributed to our game-play which made things easier for midfielders as well as defenders.

Lukaku was mentioned because his return has helped others to get some fresh breath meanwhile he still managed to score a few goals, a couple of them which were crucial ones. And we are talking exactly for a period that both Lautaro and Dzeko were completely off and our attack was struggling like hell, so Lukaku's return was somewhat decisive. He wasn't even that good because I already said that his performances were rather average but his presence in the team during that time was boosting teammates and giving extra options that we desperately needed.

You are mentioning only CL matches which is okay, but also in the league we commited way too many defeats with Handanovic on the goal. Do I think Onana is a better goalkeeper? Absolutely not. But Handa's decline was obvious. A chance was necessary to save the season, and once Onana was introduced, things have started to get into the place.
 

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Instead of asking yourselves if we have a better backline overall than United and maybe also a better system to let Onana thrive, Onana gets blamed for United's bad run of results.

Onana for us wasn't perfect by any means, but he did fit our system like a glove and it was symbiotic relationship. Whoever doesn't agree with this is the one doing the revisionism.

He was sold because we needed the plusvalenza and we needed to make moves on the market. If not for that, I think he would've stayed.

Our first 8 Serie A games were the ones Handanović was starting and we conceded 13 goals. After that Onana started most Serie A matches and that is also the time when we played 4 games against Milan and we didn't concede a goal. At the time, that was said to be partly thanks to Onana, now he is "shit". LoL

Right now after 7 Serie A games we only conceded 3. Thank God we are doing better and that we used the money to bolster our squad with quality like Pavard, Frattesi and Sommer.
 

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I know we might not always get absolute top dollar but we have become great sellers in terms of getting rid of players that don’t truly impact our core. While at the same time those players have almost never performed at the same level they have for us.

Honestly wondering how long we can keep getting away with it. Who is going to buy an Inter player on the market for top dollar after Lukaku and Onana? I guess there’s always a sucker.

Or maybe the premier league should ask itself a few questions.
 

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Hope he returns or is free In January then these teams will stop trying to buy our best players :)
 

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Instead of asking yourselves if we have a better backline overall than United and maybe also a better system to let Onana thrive, Onana gets blamed for United's bad run of results.

Onana for us wasn't perfect by any means, but he did fit our system like a glove and it was symbiotic relationship. Whoever doesn't agree with this is the one doing the revisionism.

That's a fair and accurate assessment. If only that is how people addressed this.
 

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English media doing there thing to Onana, he knows where he is welcome when he gets blamed for shambles of a clubs failures.
 

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Has any player gone to Man U and performed better than they did at their previous club? Maybe Eriksen?

If you watch Ronaldo's interview with Piers Morgan from about a year ago he makes it really clear how deep the problems go with that club.
 

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I'll say it again. One of the worst goalkeepers at the moment.
 

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Pathetic SJW and political correctness. It's kinda sad that Onana has to tell people not to tell him to be offended.
 

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lol British (social) media at it again
 

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great stop to a Haaland header just now


could have been a better header (further to the right) but still
 

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Haaland had one more from the same position later on and scored haha :lol:
 

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So could we have made 80m from Onana if Marotta was competent?
 
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