Denzel Dumfries

[ArmaLetale]

What did we say about Skriniar when he came in?

 

[Linege]

looks like a player for epl, but he is so bad that even they dont want him

i would prefer one-legged florenzi over him

 

[Materazzi_23]

The sad day was when we sold Hakimi. Now we're trying to do damage limitation. To me it feels like when we went from Maicon to D'Ambrosio.

I keep hearing criticisms about Dumfries from you and Reco. You have watched Dumfries a lot more than the rest of us so i respect your opinion. But i don't hear any suggestions about another player we should have got for a similar price. Out of all the other players we were linked with, imo Dumfries was the best option. Perhaps he will end up being the new Santiago Arias. A good player for Eredivisie but not good enough for a top league. But i certainly prefer taking a risk with him than:

• 30-year old injury prone Florenzi
• Bellerin who has been shit after his injury and he has been benched by Cedric, our Cedric
• Nandez who was valued at 25m and he has only played as a rwb for 6-months

That being said, i would feel better if we also manage to sign Nandez on loan with OPTION so we can have him as a backup plan in case Dumfries doesn't work

Touché, I could say I'm not a scout of Inter so it's not my job but that would be to easy.

I'm irritated by the fact that our scouts can only come up with names we could have thought of. It's should be a warning that after the EC were he played good no other teams but Everton and Inter are interested, even for the reported fee. If he was good enough more clubs would have taken the risk imo. Maybe he will suprise me because at PSV he never played RWB. I'm afraid after Hakimi it will look if Dumfries plays another sport.

We could have try to get Emerson from Barcelona, Dalot from Man Utd. I would even prefer Vrsajlko on loan. I could say I want Nandez but I would base that purely on the fact I don't like Dumfries. The only good thing is that the costs of him are low for our standards and it should be easy to get some Plusvalenza of this deal.

 

[Reco1986]

The sad day was when we sold Hakimi. Now we're trying to do damage limitation. To me it feels like when we went from Maicon to D'Ambrosio.

I keep hearing criticisms about Dumfries from you and Reco. You have watched Dumfries a lot more than the rest of us so i respect your opinion. But i don't hear any suggestions about another player we should have got for a similar price. Out of all the other players we were linked with, imo Dumfries was the best option. Perhaps he will end up being the new Santiago Arias. A good player for Eredivisie but not good enough for a top league. But i certainly prefer taking a risk with him than:

• 30-year old injury prone Florenzi
• Bellerin who has been shit after his injury and he has been benched by Cedric, our Cedric
• Nandez who was valued at 25m and he has only played as a rwb for 6-months

That being said, i would feel better if we also manage to sign Nandez on loan with OPTION so we can have him as a backup plan in case Dumfries doesn't work

As I said previously I would go for players we can get on loan with option like Florenzi or Nandez (Cagliari will cave in the end).
If we don't have money and have to sell our stars I don't see the point spending money on sub-par players.

Don't forget we still have Darmian who can do a decent job. I agree that we need another option and that Darmian can't play every minute, but for that Florenzi or Nandez are good enough.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

As I said previously I would go for players we can get on loan with option like Florenzi or Nandez (Cagliari will cave in the end).
If we don't have money and have to sell our stars I don't see the point spending money on sub-par players.

No way Florenzi is a better deal than Dumfries, even on loan. Loan fee + wage + injury proneness easily make Florenzi more expensive than Dumfries.

 

[Reco1986]

No way Florenzi is a better deal than Dumfries, even on loan. Loan fee + wage + injury proneness easily make Florenzi more expensive than Dumfries.

It depends how you look at it. People here are suggesting that Dumfries is a safe choice for plusvalenza. I seriously doubt that. We will be stuck with him until the end of his contract because even at "low" wages, no team will be interested in him.

Anyways, it seems that the deal is done, no point in being negative about him anymore.
Welcome Dumfries, hopefully you'll surprise me and give a lot to the team!

 

[Harpsabu]

Simeone has been good with getting the most out of his wingbacks. I trust him to get the best out of dumfries. Not expecting much, but it's better than danilo or darmian becoming our first choice rwb

 

[ElDuccio]

Simeone has been good with getting the most out of his wingbacks. I trust him to get the best out of dumfries. Not expecting much, but it's better than danilo or darmian becoming our first choice rwb

Simeone

 

[Il Drago]

Simeone has been good with getting the most out of his wingbacks. I trust him to get the best out of dumfries. Not expecting much, but it's better than danilo or darmian becoming our first choice rwb

Nah. That was Conte. The only Lazio wingback who looked good was Lazzari. Guys like Dusan Basta, Marusic, Jordan Lukaku, Lulic, Fares looked exactly the way they were. Below average. On the other hand, Simone always had his way with midfielders and that's where i am expecting some pleasant surprises.

 

[Harpsabu]

Simeone

Haha, auto correct or dreams??

Nah. That was Conte. The only Lazio wingback who looked good was Lazzari. Guys like Dusan Basta, Marusic, Jordan Lukaku, Lulic, Fares looked exactly the way they were. Below average. On the other hand, Simone always had his way with midfielders and that's where i am expecting some pleasant surprises.

I always thought lazzari looked good for lazio as well as marusic. The other names there are complete trash so not sure if he can be blamed. But, can only hope.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

It depends how you look at it. People here are suggesting that Dumfries is a safe choice for plusvalenza. I seriously doubt that. We will be stuck with him until the end of his contract because even at "low" wages, no team will be interested in him.

Anyways, it seems that the deal is done, no point in being negative about him anymore.
Welcome Dumfries, hopefully you'll surprise me and give a lot to the team!

At the same time, his book value will only be 12.5m initially, or half of Dalbert's.

After 2 years, his NBV will be down to 7.5m which makes him easy to shift. 7.5m is within the range that midtable teams in top 5 league can afford. While Dalbert's 15m NBV would make him the transfer record at some clubs.

 

[Maslany]

I wish him all the best, in fact i hope that he is so good that we would have to worry for other clubs interests instead of calculating these book values...

 

[alvaro]

Well after Hakimi all replacement options were gonna be massive downgrades, to me it seems we got the least bad option out of the mediocre bunch (Bellerin, Nandez, Zappacosta, Florenzi etc....). Especially financially the deal seems very good, though it might tell something no other club was seemingly THAT interested to get him for a reasonable price. Haven't really seen him play but I guess at least his physicality will come to be useful as we are lacking in that department IMO.

 

[ElDuccio]

Nah. That was Conte. The only Lazio wingback who looked good was Lazzari. Guys like Dusan Basta, Marusic, Jordan Lukaku, Lulic, Fares looked exactly the way they were. Below average. On the other hand, Simone always had his way with midfielders and that's where i am expecting some pleasant surprises.

i liked basta, he was good in he's first years. Lulic was decent too. i honstly also have the feeling that inzaghi made them look "better/decent". It's normal that you can't turn a player worldclass if he's shit, even if you are the best coach on earth

 

[brehme1989]

Raiola told Everton to fuck off.
Raiola told PSV to fuck off.

We'll see if he also told to us to fuck off once this gets done

 

[dejavu]

Lazzari would’ve been perfect but considering what Lazio are gonna ask for we’ll just have to make do with this guy and hope for the best.

 

[Serie B]

I have already come up with several nicknames for you when you fuck up, Denzel;

Dumbfries
Dumpfries
Drunkfries
Cuntfries
Dumbfuckeries

Could not think of complimentary ones though

 

[CafeCordoba]

Very good price for this guy. 12.5m€ + 2.5m€. Initial ask by PSV was 25m€ (though I don't know if that was year ago or something). Anyway I can guess we pay few millions of commissions to Raiola for fixing this deal.

 

[Materazzi_23]

They had an agreement that Dumfries could leave for 15M this summer. Stupid agreement to make befóre an EC if you ask me.

 

[PHM1605]

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We could have try to get Emerson from Barcelona, Dalot from Man Utd. I would even prefer Vrsajlko on loan. I could say I want Nandez but I would base that purely on the fact I don't like Dumfries. The only good thing is that the costs of him are low for our standards and it should be easy to get some Plusvalenza of this deal.

Barca sees Emerson not-for-sale and Dalot is even benched by Calabria lol. Vrsaljko...useless if he can't play.
Not to mention, Dalot and Florenzi are like double the cost (transfer fee + salary).
Just accept that we can't find better players for cheaper.