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Indeed, but if the rumors that Zang blocked his sale are true, it's hardly Marotta and co's blame.

If it's 20 mln, just take it and run.
Good Lord no! Risk a CL spot, then the morons will use the monies to extend contracts to Lukaku and Gags.
 

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By all accounts there is only a €1m difference between the 2 parties anyway - Inter offers a base salary of €6m plus bonuses of €0.5m while Skriniar wants a base salary of €6.5m with bonuses of €1m.

If we truly wanted to renew Skriniar, we would. It's not like we physically do not have the money. We are just choosing to stand firm on our offer for some idiotic reason masquerading as fiscal responsibility and principle when we're already paying Brozovic, Lautaro and Barella (soon with his yearly pay raise clause) the same amount. How is Skriniar any less deserving than any of them?

Moreover, we have no right to even flap our fucking mouths when we've literally pissed away something in the region of €90m on Lukaku, Correa and Gosens when you consider all fees and wages. For a club in our financial situation, to spend that kind of money for such little return is tantamount to a capital offence. The sheer irresponsibility and rank incompetence is off the charts.

The best part is, there's no financial gain or even any savings to be made from any of this. When Skriniar leaves for free, he'll be replaced by Smalling who will earn the same salary as Skriniar was on anyway.

The wage bill will remain exactly the same.. except for the fact that Smalling is a significantly worse player, significantly older (33 years old) and would need immediate replacing anyway. The same applies for Acerbi. de Vrij will also leave, bringing us a profit of zero dollars, and his replacement is turning 35 in 3 weeks and will need immediate replacing himself.

We've also just extended a 33 year old Darmian and a 34 year old D'Ambrosio for 2 years each. All of these guys will need to be replaced soon. Skriniar would've outstayed all of them. But we refuse to give him another 1m? Our recruitment policy and lack of long-term planning is just ridiculous.

We're not really broke in the strict sense of the word. We're strapped yes, but we do have some money and as always, the main problem is that we use it extremely poorly.
 

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By all accounts there is only a €1m difference between the 2 parties anyway - Inter offers a base salary of €6m plus bonuses of €0.5m while Skriniar wants a base salary of €6.5m with bonuses of €1m.

If we truly wanted to renew Skriniar, we would. It's not like we physically do not have the money. We are just choosing to stand firm on our offer for some idiotic reason masquerading as fiscal responsibility and principle when we're already paying Brozovic, Lautaro and Barella (soon with his yearly pay raise clause) the same amount. How is Skriniar any less deserving that any of them?

Moreover, we have no right to even flap our fucking mouths when we've literally pissed away something in the region of €90m on Lukaku, Correa and Gosens when you consider all fees and wages. For a club in our financial situation, to spend that kind of money for such little return is tantamount to a capital offence. The sheer irresponsibility and rank incompetence is off the charts.

The best part is, there's no financial gain or even any savings to be made from any of this. When Skriniar leaves for free, he'll be replaced by Smalling who will earn the same salary as Skriniar was on anyway.

The wage bill will remain exactly the same.. except for the fact that Smalling is a significantly worse player, significantly older (33 years old) and would need immediate replacing anyway. The same applies for Acerbi. de Vrij will also leave, bringing us a profit of zero dollars, and his replacement is turning 35 in 3 weeks and will need immediate replacing himself.

We've also just extended a 33 year old Darmian and a 34 year old D'Ambrosio for 2 years each. All of these guys will need to be replaced soon. Skriniar would've outstayed all of them. But we refuse to give him another 1m? Our recruitment policy and lack of long-term planning is just ridiculous.

We're not really broke in the strict sense of the word. We're strapped yes, but we do have some money and as always, the main problem is that we use it extremely poorly.
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By all accounts there is only a €1m difference between the 2 parties anyway - Inter offers a base salary of €6m plus bonuses of €0.5m while Skriniar wants a base salary of €6.5m with bonuses of €1m.

If we truly wanted to renew Skriniar, we would. It's not like we physically do not have the money. We are just choosing to stand firm on our offer for some idiotic reason masquerading as fiscal responsibility and principle when we're already paying Brozovic, Lautaro and Barella (soon with his yearly pay raise clause) the same amount. How is Skriniar any less deserving than any of them?

Moreover, we have no right to even flap our fucking mouths when we've literally pissed away something in the region of €90m on Lukaku, Correa and Gosens when you consider all fees and wages. For a club in our financial situation, to spend that kind of money for such little return is tantamount to a capital offence. The sheer irresponsibility and rank incompetence is off the charts.

The best part is, there's no financial gain or even any savings to be made from any of this. When Skriniar leaves for free, he'll be replaced by Smalling who will earn the same salary as Skriniar was on anyway.

The wage bill will remain exactly the same.. except for the fact that Smalling is a significantly worse player, significantly older (33 years old) and would need immediate replacing anyway. The same applies for Acerbi. de Vrij will also leave, bringing us a profit of zero dollars, and his replacement is turning 35 in 3 weeks and will need immediate replacing himself.

We've also just extended a 33 year old Darmian and a 34 year old D'Ambrosio for 2 years each. All of these guys will need to be replaced soon. Skriniar would've outstayed all of them. But we refuse to give him another 1m? Our recruitment policy and lack of long-term planning is just ridiculous.

We're not really broke in the strict sense of the word. We're strapped yes, but we do have some money and as always, the main problem is that we use it extremely poorly.

Replacements are already being prepared for everyone
(38)Samir Handanovic - (22)Gabriel Brazão
(36)Edin Dzeko - (21)Martín Satriano or (20)Sebastiano Esposito
(34)Francesco Acerbi - (20)Lorenzo Pirola
(34)Danilo D'Ambrosio - (22)Zinho Vanheusden
(34)Henrikh Mkhitaryan - (17)Valentín Carboni
 

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Is it normal for a player who we know that 99% will leave for free, to be still captain?
 

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By all accounts there is only a €1m difference between the 2 parties anyway - Inter offers a base salary of €6m plus bonuses of €0.5m while Skriniar wants a base salary of €6.5m with bonuses of €1m.

If we truly wanted to renew Skriniar, we would. It's not like we physically do not have the money. We are just choosing to stand firm on our offer for some idiotic reason masquerading as fiscal responsibility and principle when we're already paying Brozovic, Lautaro and Barella (soon with his yearly pay raise clause) the same amount. How is Skriniar any less deserving than any of them?

Moreover, we have no right to even flap our fucking mouths when we've literally pissed away something in the region of €90m on Lukaku, Correa and Gosens when you consider all fees and wages. For a club in our financial situation, to spend that kind of money for such little return is tantamount to a capital offence. The sheer irresponsibility and rank incompetence is off the charts.

The best part is, there's no financial gain or even any savings to be made from any of this. When Skriniar leaves for free, he'll be replaced by Smalling who will earn the same salary as Skriniar was on anyway.

The wage bill will remain exactly the same.. except for the fact that Smalling is a significantly worse player, significantly older (33 years old) and would need immediate replacing anyway. The same applies for Acerbi. de Vrij will also leave, bringing us a profit of zero dollars, and his replacement is turning 35 in 3 weeks and will need immediate replacing himself.

We've also just extended a 33 year old Darmian and a 34 year old D'Ambrosio for 2 years each. All of these guys will need to be replaced soon. Skriniar would've outstayed all of them. But we refuse to give him another 1m? Our recruitment policy and lack of long-term planning is just ridiculous.

We're not really broke in the strict sense of the word. We're strapped yes, but we do have some money and as always, the main problem is that we use it extremely poorly.
Can we also pay that ~10m-25m signing fee he will get from PSG and how much his agent want? Thing are not that simple and easy as many here think.

We are not at position to go for bidding war with clubs like PSG on wages and we need to accept that if player is after money we need to sell if we can? But now we need to reduce our wage bill and try get that new stadium going.

I’m still positive at long run we will be fine and we will be fighting for another scudetto and we will continue to play at CL if our coach and players do their job.

I have nothing against getting older players if they play like Mkhitaryan, Acerbi, Dzeko or Darmian…

There are also plenty of good free transfers or players on their last year of contract at other clubs, so we will have good options next summer. Sure we need to sell one-two starters, but they will be replaced.

AC Milan has shown you can succeed with smaller budget and even if you lose 4 startes for free after they asked too much money?

Napoli is also really good example of squad makeover after Koulibaly, Ruiz, Mertens, Insigne left and they got lower fee or loan deals likes of Raspadori, Kvaratskhelia, Kim and Anguissa. Now with fresh new faces they are running for the scudetto.

I would hope we could add 1-2 young players (one can be our own youth player or come back from loan) and get one 24-28 years old for a loan and couple older +30 years old players next summer for free and do that same thing for ever…

We can also give more responcibilities for likes of Asllani, Bellanova, Carboni or Fontanarosa.

Good team have experinced older players, good core players likes of Barella, Lautaro, Bastoni, Dumfries, Onana, Dimarco, Hakan, Gosens and few youg players… just like we currently have.

We also need to see what happens with Sensi, Satriano, Agoume, Lazaro, Zinho, Esposito, Fabbian, Mulattieri…

We also made that €40m from Casadei and Pinamonti. So there is not that big pressure to get some deals done next summer. It would be great if we can sell Dumfries at this window for €35-40m?

I see things in positive way and I try to see things with calm as I’m getting old and don’t have same energy I had at in my youth.
 

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I don't think your points are comparable to our situation.

Can we also pay that ~10m-25m signing fee he will get from PSG and how much his agent want? Thing are not that simple and easy as many here think.
There's been zero evidence to suggest Skriniar is asking us for a large signing fee or that a signing fee is the stumbling block. It's the base salary.

We are not at position to go for bidding war with clubs like PSG on wages and we need to accept that if player is after money we need to sell if we can? But now we need to reduce our wage bill and try get that new stadium going.
The business we're conducting is not reducing our wage structure though. We brought back Lukaku and made him the highest paid player in the league on €8.5m. We're paying a trasher like Correa €3.5m. We're replacing Skriniar (currently on 3m), with Smalling (currently on 3.5m).

I have nothing against getting older players if they play like Mkhitaryan, Acerbi, Dzeko or Darmian…
All of these players gave their best in rotation. Dzeko turned to garbage and was unwatchable halfway through last season because we overused him and he burnt out. Last season Limone the fucking idiot kept Dzeko on for 90 minutes every game while taking off Lautaro at 55 minutes every game. Lautaro only played something like 3 full games all season. Thankfully Limone seems to have learned his lesson and Lautaro is playing the full 90 far more often, and Dzeko being subbed off regularly.

Mkhitaryan has played far more than he should, thanks to Brozovic's injury and Limone's refusal to use Asllani as a CM, and while he's been solid for the most part, he's had some shockers too. Darmian is a backup for Dumfries and Acerbi has been rotated too. You're not suggesting we rotate old fuckers with old fuckers?


There are also plenty of good free transfers or players on their last year of contract at other clubs, so we will have good options next summer. Sure we need to sell one-two starters, but they will be replaced.
But you said yourself we can not compete to pay big wages. So how good can these options be?

AC Milan has shown you can succeed with smaller budget and even if you lose 4 startes for free after they asked too much money?
What Milan achieved was exceptional and anomalous. What they did is a once in a 20 year thing. The other 19 times, the team with the biggest budget and best players wins the league. I would like to win the league more than once per 20 years.

Napoli is also really good example of squad makeover after Koulibaly, Ruiz, Mertens, Insigne left and they got lower fee or loan deals likes of Raspadori, Kvaratskhelia, Kim and Anguissa. Now with fresh new faces they are running for the scudetto.
Funny you mention Raspadori. We could have got him but we took Correa instead. As for the other 3 players you mentioned, excellent transfers no doubt. All sourced from outside Serie A - a place Marotta seemingly refuses to look.

I would hope we could add 1-2 young players (one can be our own youth player or come back from loan) and get one 24-28 years old for a loan and couple older +30 years old players next summer for free and do that same thing for ever…
So in your ideal situation, we're adding a couple 30+ players to the roster every year..

We can also give more responcibilities for likes of Asllani, Bellanova, Carboni or Fontanarosa.
Asllani sure, but as I said, Limone utterly refuses to see him as anything other than last-choice DM. So he has Brozovic and Calhanoglu ahead of him and is not even considered for CM apparently. Bellanova is a bum. I'd love for Carboni to get some minutes but Limone has to play his 35m investment Correa. Fontanarosa? lol come on.

Good team have experinced older players, good core players likes of Barella, Lautaro, Bastoni, Dumfries, Onana, Dimarco, Hakan, Gosens and few youg players… just like we currently have.
And our good core reduces year by year until we're filled with auxiliary players and old stop-gaps.

We also need to see what happens with Sensi, Satriano, Agoume, Lazaro, Zinho, Esposito, Fabbian, Mulattieri…
Sensi? Lazaro? LOL. The only one who might have a role to play is Fabbian - as a trading piece for Scalvini.
 

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All of these players gave their best in rotation. Dzeko turned to garbage and was unwatchable halfway through last season because we overused him and he burnt out. Last season Limone the fucking idiot kept Dzeko on for 90 minutes every game while taking off Lautaro at 55 minutes every game. Lautaro only played something like 3 full games all season. Thankfully Limone seems to have learned his lesson and Lautaro is playing the full 90 far more often, and Dzeko being subbed off regularly.

Mkhitaryan has played far more than he should, thanks to Brozovic's injury and Limone's refusal to use Asllani as a CM, and while he's been solid for the most part, he's had some shockers too. Darmian is a backup for Dumfries and Acerbi has been rotated too. You're not suggesting we rotate old fuckers with old fuckers?
To be fair, I don't think he meant having a whole team full of old players only. Just that we don't necessarily need to discriminate them :LOL:, they can still offer something like you suggested, just need to manage their play time better.
I would hope we could add 1-2 young players (one can be our own youth player or come back from loan) and get one 24-28 years old for a loan and couple older +30 years old players next summer for free and do that same thing for ever…

We can also give more responcibilities for likes of Asllani, Bellanova, Carboni or Fontanarosa.

Good team have experinced older players, good core players likes of Barella, Lautaro, Bastoni, Dumfries, Onana, Dimarco, Hakan, Gosens and few youg players… just like we currently have.
 

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I don't think your points are comparable to our situation.


There's been zero evidence to suggest Skriniar is asking us for a large signing fee or that a signing fee is the stumbling block. It's the base salary.
Thats it we don’t know? How do you know it’s the base salary or the bonuses what Skriniar is demanding from us? But I have strong feeling that those rummours are correct and Skriniar is getting big sining bonus and that is hard to ignore. I havent seen any statement from Skriniar or his agent that he will accept lower wages or don’t need big sining bonus or agent fees from Inter? Or can someone link them please?
The business we're conducting is not reducing our wage structure though. We brought back Lukaku and made him the highest paid player in the league on €8.5m. We're paying a trasher like Correa €3.5m. We're replacing Skriniar (currently on 3m), with Smalling (currently on 3.5m).
I think our managment is trying to lower those wages, likes of Lukaku, Dzeko, Handanovic, Danilo, De Vrij…

We don’t know how much we would pay to Smalling if he will even join us? He might want to come here with Skriniar wages? Time will tell… but I don’t think we can offer Skriniar 6,5-7m/season + agent fees + sining bonus…

I hope we can loan Correa even if have to pay some of his wages, but we will save some money.
All of these players gave their best in rotation. Dzeko turned to garbage and was unwatchable halfway through last season because we overused him and he burnt out. Last season Limone the fucking idiot kept Dzeko on for 90 minutes every game while taking off Lautaro at 55 minutes every game. Lautaro only played something like 3 full games all season. Thankfully Limone seems to have learned his lesson and Lautaro is playing the full 90 far more often, and Dzeko being subbed off regularly.
Limone has his limitations as a coach, thats true. Also injuries happen and those can affect to any teams performance and for team selections?
Mkhitaryan has played far more than he should, thanks to Brozovic's injury and Limone's refusal to use Asllani as a CM, and while he's been solid for the most part, he's had some shockers too. Darmian is a backup for Dumfries and Acerbi has been rotated too. You're not suggesting we rotate old fuckers with old fuckers?
I would also like to see more Asllani and Carboni and even Fontanarosa and that would benefit to the club. But if Mkhitaryan or any other player can keep their performance at close to this level I don’t mind Inzaghi to keep on playing them. Age is not a thing for me, if the player perform.
But you said yourself we can not compete to pay big wages. So how good can these options be?
There will be some good players who we can give good enough wages and Inter and Serie A is still pretty attractive destination for many good players. In summer we will see and future transfers also depents who we can sell and what price? So many moving parts there, but sure PL teams have deep pockets!
What Milan achieved was exceptional and anomalous. What they did is a once in a 20 year thing. The other 19 times, the team with the biggest budget and best players wins the league. I would like to win the league more than once per 20 years.
I see different. I think Serie A is very even league and many clubs are in the same boat as we (cuttin expences). Milan have played at high level for some years now, but this season they have had many injuries just like we have had some injuries with key players and that have had negative impact to our season, like Milans. But yes I can see Milan can win another scudetto in the coming years in this league. Juventus is also struggling currently.
Funny you mention Raspadori. We could have got him but we took Correa instead. As for the other 3 players you mentioned, excellent transfers no doubt. All sourced from outside Serie A - a place Marotta seemingly refuses to look.
Every club and I mean every club will make some mistakes with transfers, there is no club with 100% succes with transfers. It’s not easy job to make transfers happen as there are many moving parts and what opportunities at that current time will be? One of them is what the coach wants and it was one of the main parts in this precise (Correa) case.

But we all know there is also many factors that will affect to players succes at the club and some times small stuff can go wrong for the players and they will be ”failure”. Like a random examble Immobile at Torino he was great then at Dortmund, Sevilla and again Torino not great, but in Lazio he has done great. Same can happen with Correa if he can find good surroundings and will find his confidence. I love Bobo Vieri takes in what happen in players head in at big club and great players can become ”failuries” if they lose their confidence.

There are no guarantees that someone like Raspadori would had been succes at Inter at that time? Most likely most of you guys would now dislike him as Simone would play him maybe 16 minutes here and there?
So in your ideal situation, we're adding a couple 30+ players to the roster every year..
0.1

Yes and they will replace couple of older players likes of Handa and De Vrij next summer. We will also get 2-3 younger players in same window.

Last summer Sanchez, Vidal, Rano, Vecino, Perisic left and we replaced them with Mkhitaryan, Acerbi and Lukaku with younger players like Onana, Asllani, Bellanova and promoted Zanotti, Fontarosa and Carboni.

20/21 season Candreva, Radja and Young left and we got Dzeko and Caseido…

We have done this for many years now and I don’t see any problem if we get suitable replacement for a decent ammount of money and most of them will be useful.
Asllani sure, but as I said, Limone utterly refuses to see him as anything other than last-choice DM. So he has Brozovic and Calhanoglu ahead of him and is not even considered for CM apparently. Bellanova is a bum. I'd love for Carboni to get some minutes but Limone has to play his 35m investment Correa. Fontanarosa? lol come on.
All those players are very young and maybe some would benefit from loan? I still wait for Bellanova. Dimarco now at 25 seem to be ready to play at team like Inter. Every player develop their own time and some players bloom later. It’s hard to judge young players as they lack of experince and are still finding their ”groove”. Sure some players find their style and confidence and strenght at young age…

Asllani is still young and has not even find his best position yet and is still finding his style of play. But surely he seems to have really good things in his game and if we can give him more responsibility next year and even more after that he might be starter some day?

You can look at Hakan for these few years and you can notice he has now matured nicely at age of 28 and has find new dimensions of his game like defence abilities with workrate.

Inter is high pressure place for a coach and coach need to have huge balls to replace older matured players with kids. That is one of the reason I don’t mind us getting good older experinced players.

But I also refuce to LoL or call some player a bum as they are still young and need some maturity. Who know Fontanarosa can be the next gem and this experience to train with players like Skriniar, Bastoni, Acerbi, Lautaro, Mkhitaryan will be in his head till he die and can give him extra motivation to train even harder to get a place in the team? Maybe next season he will be loaned or kept on roster and he will get some minuter here and there? But yeah hard to judge as I have only seen him some youth team games?

But I don’t mind us to use our own youth players as squad players and give them some minutes here and there.
And our good core reduces year by year until we're filled with auxiliary players and old stop-gaps.
That won’t happen as you can look our past merecatos and what I wrote at 0.1
Sensi? Lazaro? LOL. The only one who might have a role to play is Fabbian - as a trading piece for Scalvini.
Yes like I said we need to see what happens to Sensi, Lazaro and other loan players. We might loan them again, sell or try to include for some transfers or keep?

What is the problem?
 

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At the end of the day, we need a new owner, one that isn't hindered by his government...

You have to remember one thing. The Inter staff work for the Zhangs, they set financial goals/restrictions. If they decide not to spend more than X amount, Marotta & Co have to abide by it. It's a really bad situation, and instead of fucking off to China every week, they should be following the money and increasing our commerical revenues (it's basically where every wealthy team makes their money). If the team keeps losing/selling their best players, the team won't be competitive (playing for spots 4-6 isn't competitive, and a gamble).

If they can't afford to spend money on the club (a couple of million to re-sign one of your best players, while you over paying a BBQ Cheif or over paying for a loanee), then you shouldn't be refusing offers for a large club. I honestly don't see any good coming and I suspect in a few weeks from now we'll start hearing rumors that Inter need to make €70m or some astronomical figure in player sales. Bastoni will be on the chopping block, maybe even Barella.

I will miss Skriniar if he doesn't re-sign, but I don't blame him. I don't blame Marotta either. I blame the owners and not willing to budge on the value of the club and being unable to support it in a meaningful way.
 

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For all of you, who still kiss Skriniar in the ass and complain why we don`t pay him a few millions more to stay, if Lukaku (who is utterly shit this year) is paid 8,5m!!!
At the end of the day Lukaku was more gentleman than Skriniar. He said that he want to go and we should sell him. We recoup from Chelsea all the money we spent on him and even more.
I didn`t heard a single word form Skriniar than he want to go and when he had the possibility, he let us with the pants down from the same PSG. Everyone and their mom knows that we cannot pay hefty salaries. He could have told us last summer, that salary is the most important thing and we should sell him (even if the sum was not what we expected).

Sorry, but for me in this situation Skriniar is the asshole!
 

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So instead gettin money for Skriniar and gettin Bremer as replacement we are losing Skriniar for free and have no proper replacement. Whoever is responsible for this needs to resign. What a debacle.
What were you saying last summer when PSG made that offer? Please, be sincere!
 

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Who reported the €6.5m base with €1m bonuses thing? I think we'd pay that if he really wanted to stay for that amount
 

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Look on the bright side: Milan lost 3 starters on a free worth at least 100mil combined and Juve will most definitely lose some players if they fail to reach UCL..
 

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Who reported the €6.5m base with €1m bonuses thing? I think we'd pay that if he really wanted to stay for that amount
There are some news in sempreinter if i'm not mistaken few weeks ago..
Anyway If inter can why dont they try offer him that? I think that's the amount that inter gave to Lautaro & Brozovic, why dont inter try offer him that number at least? They dont think Skriniar worth that money?
 

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I think Inter fans should all thank Škriniar for the good times and never praise Marotta without remembering that he let arguably the best defender in the league leave for free.
 

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There are some news in sempreinter if i'm not mistaken few weeks ago..
Anyway If inter can why dont they try offer him that? I think that's the amount that inter gave to Lautaro & Brozovic, why dont inter try offer him that number at least? They dont think Skriniar worth that money?
Surely we offered him something that matches our highest earners? I highly doubt that we didn't. This is probably about not breaking the wage structure, hence the €9m fee quoted in the French media
 
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