Perpetual Managers Rumours Thread

[JJM]

http://www.calciomercato.com/news/i...-verticalita-e-spinta-in-fascia-ma-serv-58654

Interesting read...

It says that Pioli is obsessed with timing of the play,moving the players around like a team not individual units and tightening down spaces especially in df.It's a critical element that could turn the result in a good or bad one.
However the fullbacks are important in his play,they need to rotate positions with the wingers and wide mf's
FUCK THIS SHIT,our FB's are...well,FUCK!
He uses a Regista,which apparently we don't have,a right fit for him anyway and so Banega could drop there until we buy one in January...hopefully

THE 2 OPTIONS...

L'INTER CON IL 4-3-3 - Handanovic; Ansaldi, Miranda, Murillo, Santon; Joao Mario, Banega, Brozovic; Perisic, Icardi, Candreva.
L'OPZIONE 4-4-2 - Handanovic; Ansaldi, Miranda, MurIllo, Santon; Candreva, Joao Mario, Brozovic, Perisic; Eder, Icardi.

We at least won't see Medel in the regista role then...because that player needs to know how to move the ball VERTICALLY to the player...in attack like Icardi,but Icardi will must learn how to not get stuck in the PK area...but to move around
+the REGISTA needs to know how to defend and not lose the ball like BANEGA tends to do to often.
Banega could suffer under Pioli tbh...
He can verticalize the ball well but his defensive awareness is poor.

the 3 man df is a crisis option for him in extreme conditions...
also a BIG NO TO TIKI TAKA as he doesn't want to risk to lose the ball in dangerous areas,no big risks from the back
that's why he is considered the balance bringer,giving a sense of balance at the back,no high df positioning...

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GdS reports he is getting a contract till 2018 and a clause that FdB also had when he was fired...

Pioli-Inter, it's all done! Agreement until 2018 with exit clause for June

November 6, 2016 at 22:30
Fabrizio Romano

Stefano Pioli will be the new coach of Inter. Now it really is all done, the last formal step there was communication, Pioli has known the ultimate choice of the club, no more chance of overtaking and surprises with Marcelino. In these minutes, it was also alerted the Lazio to proceed with the termination of the contract still outstanding; Pioli will then again in Milan in the coming hours to sign with Inter.

DETAILS OF THE CONTRACT - According to the latest indications, Pioli will sign until June 2018, then, for a year and a half or so. But above all, there will be an exit clause in case of exemption if Pioli were to leave before the expiry of the contract of the company's choice, in fact, there would be a penalty in his favor with the termination, the way-out clause , as it was for Frank de Boer. Suning So then chooses how to behave in June, but in the meantime has chosen Pioli on the advice of the company (in particular, Help and Gardini have strongly supported) and even with the go-ahead Kia Joorabchian, who after being confronted with more Inter people he recomended Suning, Pioli to be a wiser choice, given the Italian track in such a delicate moment. So, now, yes, the era Pioli is ready to start.

 

[Wings]

I don't think Pioli is a disaster, but Marcelino is clearly the better pick.

 

[nutsncider]

I don't think this was the time tobring in a foreign coach, who's never been in the league and doesn't speak the language. It'd be setting him up for failure like de boer

 

[qb4ever_2k]

How would James, Verratti, Marquinhos play under Pioli?

 

[compile]

How would James, Verratti, Marquinhos play under Pioli?

James as CB.
Veratti as sole ST.
Marquinhos on the bench, Ranocchia starts and finishes every game.

 

[JJM]

Digged on Google for formations Pioli used at Lazio...
Lot of flexibility from Stefano from a 4-3-3 to a 4-2-3-1 to a 4-4-2 to a 3-4-3

 

[varmin]

^ Nice, but Keita and Klose are different type strikers than Icardi. And Icardi sucks as lone striker, yesterday we unlocked the defense when Jovetic and Eder came in.

 

[A.l.i]

Time to close this thread?

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[Nyall]

Why? We're hiring Piolli and will probably end up suing it again, in a few months.. or weeks

 

[b4h4mooth]

Statistic in hand, when the Chinese Suning is near 'physically' to the team, it benefits remarkebly for the team performance. Considering that with a representative of Suning in the stands, as happened against Crotone, Inter has got 13 points out of 15 available, lacking only the draw against Palermo (1-1). One more reason to increase the frequency of visiting the team in Milan or maybe better to stay in Milan.

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Time to close this thread?

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And open my Pioli thread please.

 

[I4E]

This thread will not be closed. Hence why it's called 'perpetual'.

The Pioli thread will be opened when it's official from the club. You just don't know with these clowns.

 

[Il Drago]

According to GdS, the reasons Inter didn't hire Marcelino are that he asked for 3.5m/year till 2019 and a total control of transfers. So they preferred a yes man like Pioli. That's why Kia wasn't in favour of Marcelino anymore. This club will never learn from past mistakes. This season feels so much like 2011-2012.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

According to GdS, the reasons Inter didn't hire Marcelino are that he asked for 3.5m/year till 2019 and a total control of transfers. So they preferred a yes man like Pioli. That's why Kia wasn't in favour of Marcelino anymore. This club will never learn from past mistakes. This season feels so much like 2011-2012.

Transfer control is a dangerous thing, remember Mancini and Mazzari? Once we asked them who they wanted, not even a decent name came up.

 

[firmino]

Suning will soon learn that that's pretty much what every high-profile coach requests.

 

[BabyPhat]

Look, the club has made it very clear that no manager will have complete control over transfers. Whether you or I like that philosophy, this is what Inter owners want from now on, and this was the major sticking point with Mancini as well. Also, just because a manager does not have a monopoly over the transfers does not make him a 'yes man' either. A coach is an employee of the club, and just like the sporting directors, scouts, physios, CEO etc, must abide by the club philosophy.

personally, transfer decisions are best made as a collective unit, and no one should have a monopoly. This sounds fair, and unless you are a Mourinho or an Alex Ferguson, it's very difficult to give a coach complete say over transfers.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Suning will soon learn that that's pretty much what every high-profile coach requests.

You should understand that no club gives the coach that kind of power. Maybe Bayern, Ancelotti was shocked when Rumenigge gave him such freedom. And he'd worked at Milan, Chelsea and Real.

Likewise, every club works with the coach to identify their transfer strategy. Clubs don't work alone with the only exception of Real.

Coaches can have their opinions, complete control is another thing.

 

[Il Drago]

You should understand that no club gives the coach that kind of power. Maybe Bayern, Ancelotti was shocked when Rumenigge gave him such freedom. And he'd worked at Milan, Chelsea and Real.

Likewise, every club works with the coach to identify their transfer strategy. Clubs don't work alone with the only exception of Real.

Coaches can have their opinions, complete control is another thing.

Liverpool did that with Klopp. It was actually the first thing he asked. Even before his wages. Look where they are now. And i am not saying a coach like Marcelino(good but not a top coach) should have a total control of the transfers. He needs to prove he's worthy of that. But i'd rather give the control of transfers to a coach than a greedy super agent.

 

[Ronin]

It depends on the coach. A guy like Simeone would get more freedom & control in transfers but someone like Marcelino hasn't warranted that kind of control yet.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Liverpool did that with Klopp. It was actually the first thing he asked. Even before his wages. Look where they are now. And i am not saying a coach like Marcelino(good but not a top coach) should have a total control of the transfers. He needs to prove he's worthy of that. But i'd rather give the control of transfers to a coach than a greedy super agent.

As far as I know, the only player Klopp personally asked for was Goetze and he didn't come. Other than that, Klopp may identify certain types of player, Liverpool do the rest of that, which is basically what we're doing. Mancini asked for Yaya Toure, Thohir gave him Kondogbia, Suning gave him (or was giving him) Joao Mario. He was still bitching and that was where a coach crossed the line. Marcelinho would have the same power, but he shouldn't be able to demand someone like Bruno Soriano.

Re Kia, one of the most important reasons why Kia's powerful and trusted by clubs is his clients are actually great players. If you can pay the premium, keeping a good relationship with him can be beneficial. It's not like he's pushing us to sign Yaya Toure or Zabaleta, he brought us fucking Joao Mario.

 

[Il Drago]

I am not really following Liverpool so i can't be sure about all of their transfers, but Matip, Klavan and Karius were definitely Klopp's choices. He even wanted Karius at Dortmund. He wanted Gotze as well but a coach can't get all the players he asks. Especially at a non heavy spending club.