Simone Inzaghi

Will Simone Inzaghi win a Scudetto at Inter?


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One thing that also bothers me is how little he trusts young players. I would be even willing to forgive some of his shortcomings if I saw at least one primavera player on the pitch every other game. Both pioli and allegri successfully integrated fagioli and thiaw, or at least they were given some serious minutes, with us there isn't even indication of that. Ffs I think even conte who would legitimately sell his mother for a title had more trust in our younger players than inzaghi.

The problem is it goes beyond primavera players. One could argue primavera players are simply not good enough. He also does the same with youngsters who have been club investments. Asllani has played less than Gagliardini at an expiring contract, even with Brozovic being injured for months. He threw Bellanova in the game against Barcelona and the match against Empoli when we were behind and with a man down but his playing time in between has been very limited.

Another issue is the way he deals with Dumfries. For better or worse club counts on Dumfries bringing a good offer in the summer. But Inzaghi has benched him in almost every game post World Cup. He started only in the Coppa match against Atalanta when Darmian had to replace suspended Skriniar. Darmian is expected to start against Udinese as well. Inter are losing money right now. No one is going to spend big for Darmian's backup.
 

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Inter’s directors have made clear to coach Simone Inzaghi what their expectations for the rest of the seasons are, and that there are no excuses for falling short
This according to today’s print edition of Milan-based newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport who report that the Nerazzurri directors have told Inzaghi that whilst the Serie A title is obviously out of sight, the team must push for second place in addition to fighting hard in the Champions League and Coppa Italia.

The directors are still concerned that the team could start to mentally write off the rest of the season based on the apparent impossibility of winning the title.

They want to avoid this attitude at all costs, and also have told Inzaghi that it cannot be used as an excuse for the team slumping over the rest of the season.

Top four in Serie A is obviously the bare minimum for Inter given the financial catastrophe that would be represented by missing out, but just as important to the directors and President Steven Zhang is the manner in which a Champions League spot would be clinched.

Inter currently sit second in the table, and the directors expect the team to clinch this spot, and do so in convincing fashion over the remaining matches.

Meanwhile, Inter head to the Champions League knockout rounds where they will face Porto in the round of sixteen starting next Wednesday.

Obviously the club do not expect Inzaghi to win the competition, but they have made clear that the team cannot simply bomb out in unimpressive fashion.

In the Coppa Italia as well, the club’s stance is that the Nerazzurri can still do a lot to save their season if they can defend last season’s crown.

Inter President Zhang’s view is that Inter can still be thought of as one of the top eight or so teams in Europe.

Finishing second in Serie A along with an impressive performance in the Champions League and another trophy in the Coppa Italia would go a long way towards achieving this.

Accordingly, the coach Inzaghi has been told that he must put the past in the past, and that there is no excuse for falling short from this spring onwards.
the summit you guys were mentioning
 

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I think these Inter directors need to take a look around. What other Italian club manager, referring to Spalletti, Allegri, Pioli, would have been able to qualify from that CL group of death and stay in the Coppa?

Didn’t Marotta’s favourite manager just get beaten by the same AC Milan that is in crises.
 

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The problem is it goes beyond primavera players. One could argue primavera players are simply not good enough. He also does the same with youngsters who have been club investments. Asllani has played less than Gagliardini at an expiring contract, even with Brozovic being injured for months. He threw Bellanova in the game against Barcelona and the match against Empoli when we were behind and with a man down but his playing time in between has been very limited.

Another issue is the way he deals with Dumfries. For better or worse club counts on Dumfries bringing a good offer in the summer. But Inzaghi has benched him in almost every game post World Cup. He started only in the Coppa match against Atalanta when Darmian had to replace suspended Skriniar. Darmian is expected to start against Udinese as well. Inter are losing money right now. No one is going to spend big for Darmian's backup.
Inzaghi does as he pleases with player choices and that's how it should be. If Dumfries is not good enough, he doesn't play. It's management problem after the season if Dumfries fetches too low offers. We can't tell coach to use players to improve their value.

Inzaghi has a season to focus on right now.
 

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The problem is it goes beyond primavera players. One could argue primavera players are simply not good enough. He also does the same with youngsters who have been club investments. Asllani has played less than Gagliardini at an expiring contract, even with Brozovic being injured for months. He threw Bellanova in the game against Barcelona and the match against Empoli when we were behind and with a man down but his playing time in between has been very limited.
Wasn't inzaghi a successful primavera coach with lazio? Which reminds me of stramala... How many of that famed next Gen trophy winning team broke into the 1st team squad? How many of those went on to have successful careers elsewhere? Could be our youngsters just aren't good enough (or ready), and given that inzaghi watches them week in, week out and has considerable experience with youngsters, maybe we should have faith in his judgement. Just a thought. Personally, I am more disappointed in our scouting/youth coaching. Since we took a turn in the mid 00s to focus more on youth we have produced next to nothing. Surely that can't be all on Inzaghi.
 

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Next to nothing? I guess your standards are pretty fucking high here. There are multiple players in Serie A who have been Inter youth players. Getting to Serie A level is IMO pretty fucking good in the end given how many players there are eventually not making it to highest level of that particular country.
 
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Recently playing in Seria A or other first-tier leagues from that generation: Di Gennaro Benassi, Duncan, Bessa, Livaja, Crisetig, Mbaye?
Other than occasional run of form from Benassi and Duncan, no one would get into higher end teams.
 

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One thing that also bothers me is how little he trusts young players. I would be even willing to forgive some of his shortcomings if I saw at least one primavera player on the pitch every other game. Both pioli and allegri successfully integrated fagioli and thiaw, or at least they were given some serious minutes, with us there isn't even indication of that. Ffs I think even conte who would legitimately sell his mother for a title had more trust in our younger players than inzaghi.
You should also take into consideration that pioli & allegri are both forced by circumstances to play those youngsters (injury crisis @ both teams). The problem with not trusting youngsters is the Italian mentality in general, not just a specifically inzaghi issue. Imo, if we want to have coach that trust youngsters, we should hired non Italian coaches (which also very risky considering what happens with de boer)
 

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You should also take into consideration that pioli & allegri are both forced by circumstances to play those youngsters (injury crisis @ both teams). The problem with not trusting youngsters is the Italian mentality in general, not just a specifically inzaghi issue. Imo, if we want to have coach that trust youngsters, we should hired non Italian coaches (which also very risky considering what happens with de boer)
Italian managers, for some odd reason, dont regard a player’s pace as being a main attribute. Or if they do will play players like Acerbi over the more positionally vulnerable youths.
 

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It is not about trusting the youth or not; it is either about having a very well structured team that can tolerate and nurture, which was the biggest different between Barca and Arsenal back then; or it is whether the "youth" is a true starting material, and they are expensive as fuck (Vinícius Jr.); I would say we used to have them and let them play to a certain extend like Recoba, Adriano, Mutu (kinda failed), Balotelli; they all get to play here in their young 20s; however, when we play some that needs more refinement, like Bellanova they get shit on right away.

I don't think Inzaghi is that bad integrating youngster into our team, with the balance of performance and locker room management, given our budget and circumstances.

Like I really like how Conte commented on Pirlo, which Pirlo himself worked very hard to play the DLP role, and you cannot just do it with any other player. What I am trying to say is it is not merely the coach's responsibility to train the "youngster", but also the player himself needs to want/work hard himself.

So far among all the time I watched Inter, Mancini is the best one that developed and nurtured, or at least tries (obviously some would fail, but my point is he really tries to develop them); Luis Jimenez, Balotelli, Júlio César, Nelson Rivas, Pele etc.
And on top of that he is willing to use less proven players over old experienced players: Nicolás Burdisso, Júlio César, Maicon, Maxwell.

I could be wrong, but that is how I remember it.
 

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Next to nothing? I guess your standards are pretty fucking high here. There are multiple players in Serie A who have been Inter youth players. Getting to Serie A level is IMO pretty fucking good in the end given how many players there are eventually not making it to highest level of that particular country.
Yea standards high at Inter because guess what, we expect inzaghi to compete at a high level and win trophies. If our primavera is going to churn out serie b level players then we shouldn't complain when the Inzaghi or whoever doesn't play them. I remember well the hype behind pinamonti, bonazzoli and creistig. Complete waste of time.

I really don't understand with incessant push for homegrown players. Let the coach play the best man for the job.
 

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Yea standards high at Inter because guess what, we expect inzaghi to compete at a high level and win trophies. If our primavera is going to churn out serie b level players then we shouldn't complain when the Inzaghi or whoever doesn't play them. I remember well the hype behind pinamonti, bonazzoli and creistig. Complete waste of time.

I really don't understand with incessant push for homegrown players. Let the coach play the best man for the job.
I agree with your point that Inzaghi should play the best players he has available for him.

I just commented on your piece that our youth system is not good. It's relative thing indeed. If you consider it not good if it doesn't produce players to the first team yes. But is that really the standard, is that even fair to expect? How many own youth players recent Scudetto winners have had in their rosters? Milan had Calabria and that's it. Has Juve had someone in their Scudetto run? What about this year's Napoli?
 

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As we've talked about this thing before it's mostly an Italian issue rather than Inter's or Inzaghi's thing. Just look at the interview Roberto Mancini did some months ago addressing this issue.
 

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I really don't understand with incessant push for homegrown players. Let the coach play the best man for the job.
Personally, I didn't give a shit about primavera players when we had money and financially sound owners. Now, with the current club situation it's the different story, and it's totally ridiculous we don't even try to give almost anyone a chance. Worst case scenario we false advertise those players, so we get some money from teams like bologna, genoa etc..., best case scenario, maybe we get a serviceable player like di marco and have one less worry to think about come summer given our financial situation.

And our so-called current high level wouldn't drop because of that, we would be still fighting for cl just like right now with all of our established players playing all the time.
 

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I agree with your point that Inzaghi should play the best players he has available for him.

I just commented on your piece that our youth system is not good. It's relative thing indeed. If you consider it not good if it doesn't produce players to the first team yes. But is that really the standard, is that even fair to expect? How many own youth players recent Scudetto winners have had in their rosters? Milan had Calabria and that's it. Has Juve had someone in their Scudetto run? What about this year's Napoli?
Juve didn't have anyone that played an important role. Napoli also has no napoli primavera or former Primavera playing a big role.
 

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But is that really the standard, is that even fair to expect?
Then why do we insist Inzaghi play them?? G5 and Correa might be among our worst signings but they've progressed further career wise than any our primavera since maybe Balotelli.

Bbilan and Gobbi atleast have donnarumma, locatelli and marchisio to speak of. Napoli can atleast bring up Insigne.

All in all, in my view we don't have room to complain. Before we admonish Inzaghi let's atleast produce one high level primavera good enough to play for a top 3-5 team.

As for Mancinis comments...

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Good young players play. Chiesa, Donnarumma, Zaniolo, Tonali and Scalvini are proof of this.
 

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Then why do we insist Inzaghi play them?? G5 and Correa might be among our worst signings but they've progressed further career wise than any our primavera since maybe Balotelli.

Bbilan and Gobbi atleast have donnarumma, locatelli and marchisio to speak of. Napoli can atleast bring up Insigne.

All in all, in my view we don't have room to complain. Before we admonish Inzaghi let's atleast produce one high level primavera good enough to play for a top 3-5 team.

As for Mancinis comments...

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Good young players play. Chiesa, Donnarumma, Zaniolo, Tonali and Scalvini are proof of this.
Dimarco? I know not a top player but he came from our youth and is a starter for us now and a NT player
 

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Why are you guys so focused on primavera players when we have two youngsters who cost 21m (Asllani and Bellanova) and have limited playing time?

While we can argue Bellanova has Darmian and Dumfries ahead of him what's really the excuse for Asllani? Even with Brozovic injured for months Inzaghi prefers playing Mkhi nonstop and even give playing time to Gagliardini over playing Asllani.

There's no valid reason for Asllani to have less playing time than Gagliardini.
 
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