Simone Inzaghi

[forzainter257]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1450142080634867712

First De Vrij. Now Skriniar. Only Inzaghi sees no problem with Inter conceding so many goals.

Well well... is it Inzaghi who is telling you to mark 5 vs 1 like you guys did in the Lazio match? It wasn't like they carried out a super fast counter to get our defense off guard. Both Anderson and Immobile reached the penalty box literally walking on their feet, SMS didn't even bother supporting them, yet they managed leaving Andreson with no man marking.

 

[CafeCordoba]

That's not what Skriniar said though. He said "we need to improve a lot defensively, we aren't satisfied but with the new coach we play differently".

This per @JJM

There's a different tone in that comment.

 

[santon48]

The saddest part is, now every forward has the confidence to score against us, and it's giving them a lot of morale boost when they face us, and it's gonna hurt inter defense really bad, both on the pitch and psychologically, hopefully inzaghi can and willing to adapt and tweak his philosophy

 

[Il Drago]

That's not what Skriniar said though. He said "we need to improve a lot defensively, we aren't satisfied but with the new coach we play differently".

This per @JJM

There's a different tone in that comment.

This is the tweet of Daniele Mari:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1450101408515207168

and this is the video of Skriniar words:

VIDEO / Skriniar: “Stiamo subendo troppi gol. Dobbiamo trovare equilibrio”

Le parole del difensore dell'Inter, Milan Skriniar, alla vigilia della sfida di Champions contro lo Sheriff

www.fcinter1908.it

 

[CafeCordoba]

Okay someone speaking native Italian, what is the tone of these words? What is the exact translation?

Inzaghi was sitting next to him there so I find it extremely hard to believe Skriniar would "blame" the coach in a way how that IFTV's tweet suggests.

 

[rfU]

Look at his interview recently. Inzaghi is like, meh, I dont care about leaking goals, my football is like that and you have to accept etc. It means he would never change himself anytime soon. Sorry, the peak of that Zeman football is Atalanta. History has proven, defense wins you titles, not this scoring machine shit. If Inzaghi doesn’t realize Inter is one of the oldest team in Serie A and can’t play his football whole season long, that is the coach’s fault for not adapting.

I think someone needs to do a play-by-play analysis of the goals conceded thus far this season because I think we're just throwing "number of goals conceded" on Inzaghi's yet we're conceding goals like Lazio's third with SMS winning a header vs DeFry and Skrinair. I mean, at what point are the players accountable for bad positioning and lack of concentration?

Granted we're not as solid as we were under Conte but at least 4 of the 12 goals conceded IMO were straight "amateur hour" by our players.

The saddest part is, now every forward has the confidence to score against us, and it's giving them a lot of morale boost when they face us, and it's gonna hurt inter defense really bad, both on the pitch and psychologically, hopefully inzaghi can and willing to adapt and tweak his philosophy

I thought this had to do with the fact that without Kaku and Hakimi we can't counter for shit?

 

[PHM1605]

I think someone needs to do a play-by-play analysis of the goals conceded thus far this season because I think we're just throwing "number of goals conceded" on Inzaghi's yet we're conceding goals like Lazio's third with SMS winning a header vs DeFry and Skrinair. I mean, at what point are the players accountable for bad positioning and lack of concentration?

Granted we're not as solid as we were under Conte but at least 4 of the 12 goals conceded IMO were straight "amateur hour" by our players.


I thought this had to do with the fact that without Kaku and Hakimi we can't counter for shit?

Watching only goals conceded is far from enough. Had you watched full matches this season, you would see the countless times the opponent freely ran in front of our box. No one was pressing him because all was pushed too high upfront. Ofc when we keep giving them gifts, 1 of 10 times our defenders would make mistakes. That's unavoidable.

Count the times Skriniar won a 1-vs-1 due to his individual brilliance too. Well, in Conte time it almost never happened. There was always at least another to cover, or at least, limited the space he had to handle.

If the best trio in the league, if not the world, were running like headless chickens, you know players aren't the problem. But the tactics.

 

[Bluenine]

If I remember correctly, Conte started last season in a similar fashion, trying to attack more and making the defence help out with their positioning higher up. And we conceded a lot of goals. It was a bit pazza. Luckily Conte came to his senses, when to a more defensive organisation bringing our defenders (and himself) back in to their comfort zone, and we started conceding less.

What I am trying to say is - its not the players, its the tactics. I hope Inzaghi learns this too, but I suspect he doesn't have that defensive-counter attack strategy in his arsenal.

 

[Demenza Senile]

That's not what Skriniar said though. He said "we need to improve a lot defensively, we aren't satisfied but with the new coach we play differently".

This per @JJM

There's a different tone in that comment.

Pffft as if that Slovakian knows any Italian.

 

[CafeCordoba]

If I remember correctly, Conte started last season in a similar fashion, trying to attack more and making the defence help out with their positioning higher up. And we conceded a lot of goals. It was a bit pazza. Luckily Conte came to his senses, when to a more defensive organisation bringing our defenders (and himself) back in to their comfort zone, and we started conceding less.

What I am trying to say is - its not the players, its the tactics. I hope Inzaghi learns this too, but I suspect he doesn't have that defensive-counter attack strategy in his arsenal.

Yeah it's just interesting that Inzaghi is going through the same mistake. The exact same mistake.

Skriniar indeed says that coach wants more open game, but it's interesting to see what will he do about it. Because IMO our material does not suit more open game. We don't score enough goals if we concede 1-2 goals every match.

 

[PHM1605]

The problem is, Conte is a defensive coach and he was experimenting. He knew that was a mistake then switched back to his usual.

For Inzaghi this is his true football from the core. He did not see it as a "mistake" and will never see.

 

[Il Drago]

Watching only goals conceded is far from enough. Had you watched full matches this season, you would see the countless times the opponent freely ran in front of our box. No one was pressing him because all was pushed too high upfront. Ofc when we keep giving them gifts, 1 of 10 times our defenders would make mistakes. That's unavoidable.

Count the times Skriniar won a 1-vs-1 due to his individual brilliance too. Well, in Conte time it almost never happened. There was always at least another to cover, or at least, limited the space he had to handle.

If the best trio in the league, if not the world, were running like headless chickens, you know players aren't the problem. But the tactics.

Exactly. Look at this and then tell me the problem isn't the way we play.

We have conceded more than Torino who have already faced Atalanta, Lazio, Napoli, Juventus and whose starting cbs are Djidji, Bremer and Ricardo Rodriguez. The problem is the tactics, not the players.

 

[rfU]

Watching only goals conceded is far from enough. Had you watched full matches this season, you would see the countless times the opponent freely ran in front of our box. No one was pressing him because all was pushed too high upfront. Ofc when we keep giving them gifts, 1 of 10 times our defenders would make mistakes. That's unavoidable.

This is true but if we don't commit the numbers forward do we score? A balance needs to be found somehow. I'd like for us to attack relentlessly until a goal is found then retreat into our defensive shell. The problem with this is that we have no counter attacking outlet like we did with Lukaku and Hakimi. So saying how much better Conte was is a meaningless point.

If the best trio in the league, if not the world

One day FIF will wake up to the fact that this is not true. We have a highly capable defensive trio but Inzaghi doesn't need to tell Skrinair that Malinovsky has a fearsome shot and should be closed down or how lethal SMS is at headers.

The truth is our wide CBs are not athletic and are easily exposed on the flanks (why we need the wingbacks to stay deeper) and DeFry is a poor communicator and cracks under pressure therefore needs protection from the midfield.

The problem is the tactics, not the players.

How can you say that after the Bologna goal? The goals vs Samp? Real Madrid goal? That has nothing to do with players poor concentration levels and is 100% Inzaghi tactics? There's a huge mental problem we're overlooking for the sake of blaming a manager who for some of you wasn't first choice.

 

[Il Drago]

How can you say that after the Bologna goal? The goals vs Samp? Real Madrid goal? That has nothing to do with players poor concentration levels and is 100% Inzaghi tactics? There's a huge mental problem we're overlooking for the sake of blaming a manager who for some of you wasn't first choice.

I find funny you bring up the second goal against Sampdoria as it was a prime example of a defensive setup fuckup. It wasn't the result of an individual mistake. Instead the team defended very badly which left Augello wide open. And once again you focus only on goals. There was the Fiorentina game where the team was pretty bad in the first half and we had to thank Handanovic not to concede more than one. There was the Sassuolo game where defence was a clusterfuck and we were lucky to lose only 1-0. And finally there was the Lazio game where our left side had made Felipe Anderson look like prime Ronaldinho. You focus on the mentality problem but these are the same players who had given us the best defensive record in the league last season.

For me it's clear as day the problem is the defensive setup. And it isn't even something new for Inzaghi teams.

 

[rfU]

I find funny you bring up the second goal against Sampdoria as it was a prime example of a defensive setup fuckup. It wasn't the result of an individual mistake. Instead the team defended very badly which left Augello wide open. And once again you focus only on goals. There was the Fiorentina game where the team was pretty bad in the first half and we had to thank Handanovic not to concede more than one. There was the Sassuolo game where defence was a clusterfuck and we were lucky to lose only 1-0. And finally there was the Lazio game where our left side had made Felipe Anderson look like prime Ronaldinho. You focus on the mentality problem but these are the same players who had given us the best defensive record in the league last season.

For me it's clear as day the problem is the defensive setup. And it isn't even something new for Inzaghi teams.

I'm saying it's a combination of things. On one hand we have Inzaghi stubbornly refusing to play to our strengths and as a results exposing our weaknesses, and on the other hand our players: 1) are not the infallible, world class players we thought they were and 2) are not mentally focused as they should be, especially our seasoned vets like DeFry and Handa.

 

[forzainter257]

Verona - Inter 1:3 (conceded after Samir's wrong pass to Brozo in our own half)
Sampdoria - Inter 2:2 (1st goal came after corner kick, 2nd - a very organized attack of Sampa)
Inter - Bologna 6:1 (the goal was scored when we were leading by six goals. defenders left Teate unmarked)
Fiorentina - Inter 1:3 (Skriniar went a bit too forward leaving his zone and Perisic was too slow to chase Sottil)
Inter - Atalanta 2:2 (1st goal Handa's mistake, 2nd goal Malinovsky masterpiece)
Sassuolo - Inter 1:2 (a goal from penalty kick)
Lazio - Inter 1:3 (1st - penalty, 2nd: poor defending although we had 5 players vs 2, 3rd goal from set-piece)

I only see 1 goal which was conceded when our defenders were positioning too high in the match vs Fiorentina (Sottil's goal). All other goals were conceded because of:
- Samir's mistakes - 2
- poorly organized, undisciplined defending - 7
- not defense related - 1 (Malinovsky goal)

I think defenders simply forgot how to defend or maybe became complacent because there is no more the guy who used yell every minute of the match

 

[CafeCordoba]

What is this argument that only 1 goal conceded was because defenders were positioned too high?

Our defensive setup is more loose, players don't have to defend as strictly as with Conte. And as Il Drago said, only conceded goals cannot be counted when determining how well defence is working. All the big chances the opponent fucks up or goalie saves are still conceded chances and are not a proof of successful defending (because no goal conceded) but quite the opposite.

 

[forzainter257]

There was a point that Inzaghi's tactics are too attacking which requires defenders to play higher up.

I posted the stats just to have some idea, take a chill pill

 

[Jusef]

Don’t believe the team is conceding because too many players are moving forward / tactics reason.

I believe the team is conceding because the midfield is failing and often loosing the ball too cheaply.

Even Barella is overplaying sometimes and giving up possession in bad situations( when the WB has made the overlapping run).

There is also the overarching reason, the whole team lacks pace, particularly the 3 CBs

 

[Ethor]

Glad he got the win of course, and subbed a couple of our vital players off. Good job.