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[.h.]

No.

Not in Italy.
Not in England.
Not in Spain.
Not in France.
Not in Portugal.
Not in Brazil.
Not in Argentina.

The myth of "sustainability" is just there to preserve the status quo.


The only "sustainable" elite club in the world is Bayern Munchen. And if you look at their financials, you'll realize why.

theres a big difference between a club that can afford to invest 100-200mil euros a year, versus one that needs 100mil plusvalenza EVERY season.

Italy, off the top of my head (except Barca) is the only league where there needs to be CONSISTENT plusvalenza just to stay alive across its big clubs.


We dont have to generate a profit every year, but we shouldnt need to raise 250mil a year (losses + plusvalenza) just to run the club as-is with no expenditure

 

[IM21]

Our new buyer

 

[.h.]

brozovic master plan, make enough money to buy inter

 

[brehme1989]

Italy, off the top of my head (except Barca) is the only league where there needs to be CONSISTENT plusvalenza just to stay alive across its big clubs.

Same applies to France.

Also, in England, but their accounting magic and lack of audit control by the governing body makes sure that this isn't an issue. Only Manchester United is "sustainable" in that sense.

Liverpool typically spends when they make sales.
Chelsea ignores all rules possible.
Arsenal spends once every 3 years.
Manchester City is a different animal.
Tottenham rarely spends.


Yes, their financials look better because there's a lot of questionable commercial deals that flow into the Premier League TV rights and they get full advantage of that, but if you regulate that, they become a hot mess themselves as they're mostly badly run entities. Such as Everton, West Ham or others that are or were on the verge of collapse.
Really, most PL clubs are kinda screwed, even with that tv money influx. There's a reason why many of them just become irrelevant once the PL money runs out (by relegation and not returning the next season).
More than half their teams across 2nd and 3rd tier are foreign owned with the ambition of earning some of that bubble PL money, but if you notice their financials, they're almost all indebted to crazy levels...

If UEFA was more serious about this and didn't only focus on Italy, Greece and Turkey, then you'd have 10 PL teams banned from Europe or have restrictions and Settlement Agreements. Instead, we hear words of praise for how wonderful their "product" is... Nonsense. It's a bubble and it's only going to burst if the governing bodies do their job.

Now with City we hear that the UK government wants to put an end to the FA's and PL's attempt to penalize them because it'll ruin relations with the UAE... I wonder if UEFA would care, they even let them play in Europe and win CL in a year where they were supposed to be banned... But sure, let's say that in Italy you need to come up with 250m each year just to keep up with the cheaters and blame Italy. Like when we blamed Moratti because Moggi and Juventus were controlling the league and we had to spend 100m every year just to be able to try and beat the refs as well over 34 games...

 

[Gal]

Can really an elite football club be sustainable? Form everything written on these pages my strong feeling is there is no way Inter can be sustainable and satisfy some basic sporting needs of the club and fans. Like it or not, we need a sugar daddy imo

Of course it can be done but it requires a willingness to be so, a willingness there just hasn’t really been all that pronounced in the sport so far, but it’s not the same as it cannot be done. Is probably not easy but I do think it’s achievable.

 

[.h.]

Of course it can be done but it requires a willingness to be so, a willingness there just hasn’t really been all that pronounced in the sport so far, but it’s not the same as it cannot be done. Is probably not easy but I do think it’s achievable.

like to be blunt about it, if a team with 5? 6? bosman signings can make the CL latter stages on a regular basis, sustainability isnt that hard

i think we've seen time and time again, well made teams are better than expensive teams, but of course a well made expensive team is the best

 

[IL Fenomeno]

They will sell players if the price that arrives at the desk is deemed high enough, no one is safe with a AIF as owner.

The second reason is slimming the payroll. They certainly are not fond of old players on high wages or even high wages at all, all players that now receive a high wage are at risk getting sold the moment they take over due to lack of revenue.

Investcorp will definitely try improving revenue unlike oaktree, that will just cut everything to the bone, cover over the cracks and cover the leaks and then put cheap paint over and sell it as a complete renovation and try to get as much they can back from the loan as quickly as possible. This is the difference of one who want to have a club in the portfolio and one that doesn’t.. But the end goal is the same profit.

doesn't sound too bad tbh. as long Marotta is staying im not worried

 

[Adriano@10]

Now Tuttosport reports it might be some Saudi entrepreneurs, Mubadala or Ivestcorp (they btw invest a lot of Saudi money).

Mubadala is the biggest Individual shareholder of Investcorp.....
Imho this is tuttosport just throwning shit at the wall and seeing what sticks

 

[Gal]

Exactly mubadala is largest individual shareholder, I honestly doubt they placed a bid…

Investcorp been lurking around for over a year, why I find that plausible especially as they don’t really want to deny they placed a bid.

 

[Corrode]

Can really an elite football club be sustainable? Form everything written on these pages my strong feeling is there is no way Inter can be sustainable and satisfy some basic sporting needs of the club and fans. Like it or not, we need a sugar daddy imo

No. Football costs are too high.

 

[henrywij]

No. Football costs are too high.

Agree... player price and wages rise to much... its imposible to be able to self sustaining if 1 decent player is priced at 100 m

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

It now makes sense also why we started fast tracking the new stadium these past couple of weeks with the Rozzano mayor meeting. Try to beef up the value.

Milan is doing the same thing. Nothing to do with this.

 

[Corrode]

Milan is rich. They can build new stadium anytime. Inter is poor. We can't build it without new sugar daddy money from Arabs.

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

Milan is rich. They can build new stadium anytime. Inter is poor. We can't build it without new sugar daddy money from Arabs.

That's not how stadiums are financed and built...

 

[IL Fenomeno]

Milan is rich. They can build new stadium anytime. Inter is poor. We can't build it without new sugar daddy money from Arabs.

are they?

 

[Ayalon]

Also as far as I know there haven't been any concrete new developments with Milan's stadium in the past couple of weeks.

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

Also as far as I know there haven't been any concrete new developments with Milan's stadium in the past couple of weeks.

What are you talking about? San Donato rejected a referendum on it like 2 days ago. It's good to go.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Agree... player price and wages rise to much... its imposible to be able to self sustaining if 1 decent player is priced at 100 m

Calculate how much it cost to acquire last season's squad which reached the CL final not named Manchester City. You can do a lot without needing to buy 100m players.

 

[Mikele]

Milan is rich. They can build new stadium anytime. Inter is poor. We can't build it without new sugar daddy money from Arabs.

ACM is not rich. It is matter of short time, when they will colaps again. Redbird pays only 600M of their money. The rest is loan from Elliot. I will be not surprused, if they fall in Elliot's hand soon. But, I think there is some kind of laundering money between them. That is why they kicked out Investcorp. Anyway, I do not care about them, just to say, it is very hard time for Italian football.

 

[henrywij]

Calculate how much it cost to acquire last season's squad which reached the CL final not named Manchester City. You can do a lot without needing to buy 100m players.

But we cant hold of any of our star player. We manage to develop them and then just to sold them to the premier league. We cant be consistent semi finalis in ucl being seller club. Look at ajax...