La Curva Nord

[firmino]

I don't want to burst your bubble, but back then the Scramble for Africa was still a thing and Europeans were isolated from the rest of the world in their daily lives.

You are bursting my bubble? lol YOU contradict yourself, dude, by putting in the mix something which has nothing to do with Inter foundation.

Some of those who created Inter were former members of Milan who disagreed with having strangers in the team. So they created their own team.

 

[brehme1989]

You are bursting my bubble? lol YOU contradict yourself, dude, by putting in the mix something which has nothing to do with Inter foundation.

Some of those who created Inter were former members of Milan who disagreed with having strangers in the team. So they created their own team.

Where do I contradict myself exactly?

Also, I replied to your post about "the message" and "all born under the same sky".
If it were 2018 yes, you'd be right. But in 1908 Milano, Italy, that's not really what they meant. It's nice to keep this heritage and expand it to our modern era and enhance it, but that's not really what the Inter founders had in mind.

I'll repeat. This was still the time of African Scramble (aka colonialism, you are well read in history, you know what I am referring to) and a completely isolated society where neighboring nations had not much interaction between their citizens, let alone distant ones. Almost everyone one involved at Inter at the time would probably qualify as a "racist" by modern society terms, especially the Anglospheric ones. Times change, we adapt and condemn past actions that we no longer deem correct. But rewriting history is not part of this.

Also, a football club was exactly that. A club. The AC Milan club decided that its doors were closed for anyone not Italian. Inter came due to this disagreement. We got Swiss founding members and the actual message was pretty much this. That non-Italians could have their own club with no restriction. Milan was a closed club, Inter was more open.

Inter was never a globalist utopia club, I don't get why you want to assume it was. It always was a bourgeois club.

 

[firmino]

You said it was about nationality, then God knows why you put colonial wars in the mix lol.

Inter IS about brotherhood. It was not founded under the idea of globalism because it wasn't a thing back then, but the idea of brotherhood was there, having the sky as the only border. In the history of humanity, only the stoic philosophy before WWII elaborated a "globalist" theory of sorts.[FBV][/FBV]

 

[brehme1989]

What exactly is this Brotherhood though?

 

[K.I.]

Without doing much research on this, i am sure at the time it meant other white nationalities. Italy is still racist from what i see and hear so i can imagine what it was like back then.

EDIT

Wrong for me to say Italy is still racist since i haven been there personally and the actions of some is not indicative of the majority of people. I am sure not everyone in Italy is racist but other people from there can give their opinions on here.

The Majority of black players there though seem to suffer some kind of abuse over the last 20 years i have followed Serie A, not sure how just regular people would fare if footballers get that treatment.

 

[Mad Biscione]

There is no brotherhood, its just a meaningless blabber, today everything has to have some PC meaning attachted to it. It cant just be 11 guys playing football anymore.

 

[Bergpavian]

Curva Nord should shut up and take care of its own problems. Nobody/Nothing brought more shame on our club in the last years than their racist brain farts. It went up and down in medias in whole Europe and instead of doing something against it the Curva members deny, relativise etc.

 

[PlaymakerX]

I couldn't care less about what they think. Just keep trolling and have fun, clowns.

 

[Demenza Senile]

Curva Nord should shut up and take care of its own problems. Nobody/Nothing brought more shame on our club in the last years than their racist brain farts. It went up and down in medias in whole Europe and instead of doing something against it the Curva members deny, relativise etc.

Dont be too harsh on them.Sometimes things just be "50-50" nomsayin!!

 

[phonk]

They called Icardi a piece of shit when he converted the penalty. I'm sure it will be all over the media tomorrow... fucking morons. You don't have to like him, I get it but why do these morons have to make things worse all the time?

 

[Demenza Senile]

Did they also boo and insult him when he was taken off? Did Spalletti sub him out on purpose to rub it in and have him hear even more insults?

I probably wouldnt have subbed him off tbh.Just wondering.

 

[n4l]

Curva Nord should shut up and take care of its own problems. Nobody/Nothing brought more shame on our club in the last years than their racist brain farts. It went up and down in medias in whole Europe and instead of doing something against it the Curva members deny, relativise etc.

Actually, media all over the world. It was on a football segment in the fucking US about racism in football and it's our two fines this year were highlighted.

 

[Guz]

This video shows one of the CN leaders telling the others not to celebrate Icardi's goal. I can already see what they will do during the Atalanta game at home.
Keep in mind that "everything they do, they do for the good of Inter". Like hurling monkey chants towards opposition players, arranging a brawl with Napoli fans in the streets of Milan, etc... But, hey, they make some cool-ass choreographies!!!

Scum.

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1113533623645372417

 

[Maslany]

Disgraceful, hatred is never for the good of this team.

The best for this team is Icardi to play when needed, we have to keep his price up.

I thought Inter is above everyone, so why are they concentrating on a single player?! Dumb fuckers.

 

[Luka]

Curva Nord is just like any of us, but they put higher onus on the honor/passion vs business/results.

I bet that if we could hire the best coach in the world, but he was a die hard jubentino then many here wouldn't want him. So what's the difference?

Obviously that monkey business is stupid and retarded, but that's most likely only a few idiots there, not most.

 

[CafeCordoba]

If it was just few idiots, they as a group would shut the idiots down. Because they are not random events, the monkey chants have been there for years.

 

[K.I.]

The monkey chants are also said to come from younger people, and sometimes kids as well, its definitely a culture issue in Italy, not just the CN.

 

[firmino]

Apparently, when the penalty was awarded and it became clear that icardi would be the one taking it (as usual), some supporters from Inter curva asked the other supporters not to celebrate in case he would convert it.

I haven't seen this myself, I have heard about it on the radio

 

[Materazzi_23]

Normally these younger people would be corrected by the leaders or older guys if they are doing something the group doesn't want to. There is quite some control at the Ultras stands so I can't imagine they did it on their own. The fact the capo is trying to tell the fans to not celebrate would mean the leaders don't want people to cheer for Icardi.

Stupid as they are it doesn't mean you are cheering for Icardi but because your club is scoring a goal. I never understood people who whistle there own players or make monkey chants especially when you have black people in your own team. But then again the ultras are not known for their intelligence.

 

[Adriano@10]

Apparently, when the penalty was awarded and it became clear that icardi would be the one taking it (as usual), some supporters from Inter curva asked the other supporters not to celebrate in case he would convert it.

I haven't seen this myself, I have heard about it on the radio

Did they not do the same thing when he released that book? Pretty sure they released a statement back then that they wont celebrate mauros goals any more.
took like 3 months or more till they screamed his name again after he scored.

Anyways i have no problem with them not celebrating his goals, but i really disliked the Icardi uomo di merda chants. I just dont see how that could possibly help anybody especially when sung during a game.

I dont give two shits if you see him in the streets and tell him your a piece of shit but to be hating on one of your players while he s on the pitch fighting is just not right imho.