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Imo Bastoni, Barella and Lautaro are untouchables. As someone else said Bastoni is still young and his qualties in possesion are rare.

Becao is really good defensively and can contribute goals. He's average/poor on the ball though and is quite error prone at times. Good as a rotation option but not sure he's good enough to be a starter
 

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Some people forget that Bastoni is still 23 years old, and it is quite normal to be inconsistent, especially for CB. As long as Skriniar is replaceable, because he is mostly physical player, it's much more difficult to find CB like Bastoni with similar long passing and vision. He should be untouchable in this squad.
Yeah I like Bastoni and that’s true he is still young. But we need to see how much he is asking for his next contract and we need new players and money. I have a feeling he will ask more than Skriniar cause he knows his value (special skills long passing/vision)

I think someone like N’dicka would be perfect replacement for free and if we can get someone like Pavard/Scalvini with that money plus little profit it would make sense.

Skriniar free transfer -> N’dicka free transfer
Bastoni ~55-65m -> Pavard/Scalvini ~35-45m

We could also try to include youth player or two for Scalvini deal and maybe try to get him for a paid loan?
 

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Imo Bastoni, Barella and Lautaro are untouchables. As someone else said Bastoni is still young and his qualties in possesion are rare.

Becao is really good defensively and can contribute goals. He's average/poor on the ball though and is quite error prone at times. Good as a rotation option but not sure he's good enough to be a starter
Nobody is untouchable in Serie A.
 

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Yeah I like Bastoni and that’s true he is still young. But we need to see how much he is asking for his next contract and we need new players and money. I have a feeling he will ask more than Skriniar cause he knows his value (special skills long passing/vision)

I think someone like N’dicka would be perfect replacement for free and if we can get someone like Pavard/Scalvini with that money plus little profit it would make sense.

Skriniar free transfer -> N’dicka free transfer
Bastoni ~55-65m -> Pavard/Scalvini ~35-45m

We could also try to include youth player or two for Scalvini deal and maybe try to get him for a paid loan?
Becao (20m) and Pavard (50m) or Scalvini (50m) are even bigger over entire cost of bastoni. your zhang ready to give massive budget like those?
 

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Becao (20m) and Pavard (50m) or Scalvini (50m) are even bigger over entire cost of bastoni. your zhang ready to give massive budget like those?
Of cource if you change the players and numbers like that and you can value Bastoni to 5 euros and Becao €60m you will have to pay more than just renew Bastoni :)

But if you run the numbers like I wrote sell Bastoni for ~55-60m and manage to get Pavard or Scalvini for ~35-45m you will get somewhere ~10-20m profit with same or even lower wages?

I think Bastoni want’s big money as there is lot of interest for him?

I also think Scalvini is more doable as he is Italian and still young, so staying Italy is more likely than going abroad. I think he would also come here close to same wages as Bastoni is currently earning, so we might see savings there than renew Bastoni this summer with bigger wages…

We could also try to loan him (Scalvini) with obligation and split the cost for next 3-5 years, lowering costs for next summer + ad one/two youth players to lower the price. There was talk about including Fabbian to that deal valued ~€15m.

I did not talk about getting Becao for 20m, but Ndicka for free to replace Bastoni.

Skriniar leave for free and we get N’dicka for free… and to be clear I was referring to cost basis, both are free transfers and similar wages.

I think we will only go for someone like Pavard or Scalvini if we manage to sell Bastoni for good price? Otherwise I think we are going after someone like Becao for ~18-22m to replace Skriniar.

There is also links to Debast for €8-10m.

Smalling might come to replace De Vrij if he don’t renew.

So it’s pretty clear we need to sell atleast one of big players Bastoni/Barella/Lautaro and maybe of Dumfries or Brozovic? We need to get cash and cut wages.
 
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But if you run the numbers like I wrote sell Bastoni for ~55-60m and manage to get Pavard or Scalvini for ~35-45m you will get somewhere ~10-20m profit with same or even lower wages?

I think Bastoni want’s big money as there is lot of interest for him?
isn't pavard get 3 times salaries over bastoni (6m net)? how the hell can Inter sign him?

there is a reason why Pavard wants barcelona so much every season because he would be promised more bigger salaries there.
 

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It's widely reported now that we indeed went for Pavard but Bayern refused our offer, which according to Salihamidzic (their sporting director) was financially attractive.
 

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According to capolgy Pavard is making 2.65 mil. We should be able to offer an increase with growth decree. Good signing. Preferred option would be Scalvini but Pavard would be good too
 

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According to capolgy Pavard is making 2.65 mil. We should be able to offer an increase with growth decree. Good signing. Preferred option would be Scalvini but Pavard would be good too
The problem is that Pavard will have lots of other teams interested, especially Barcelona
 

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Wooo pavard would make me forget about skri… perfect replacement
 

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Yeah he's probably looking to double his salary. But honestly we could maybe afford that, specially with the Growth Decree.
 

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The problem is that Pavard will have lots of other teams interested, especially Barcelona
Barca would play him at RB. He wants to play CB. Salary wise they can't offer much more they are going to court to register contracts
 

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I’ve learned not to expect replacements that actually make sense. Pavard is going to Barca, only to be unhappy 6 months later and then there will be tons of rumors about a potential loan deal to inter which should last for years until we finally sign him when he’s 35 and already had his stint at Roma.
 

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Isn't he left footed? Would be weird to field him and Bastoni as the wide center backs.
I think it can work if we keep the tactic as it is now: attacking from the left; and the RCB is more defensive dominating. (Think of a 4 back system 2 CB left footed is alright) Evan N’Dicka is actually quite a stopper, based on my very limited times of watching plus highlights.
Obviously if you want the right side as equipped as the left side in terms of driving up, penetrating and crossing then Pavard/Scalvini is a much better choice.
 

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Yeah I like Bastoni and that’s true he is still young. But we need to see how much he is asking for his next contract and we need new players and money. I have a feeling he will ask more than Skriniar cause he knows his value (special skills long passing/vision)

I think someone like N’dicka would be perfect replacement for free and if we can get someone like Pavard/Scalvini with that money plus little profit it would make sense.

Skriniar free transfer -> N’dicka free transfer
Bastoni ~55-65m -> Pavard/Scalvini ~35-45m

We could also try to include youth player or two for Scalvini deal and maybe try to get him for a paid loan?

More like you sell Bastoni for around 60m in order to reach Suning target and sign Ndicka on a free. Then you hope you can sell Dumfries for around 40m and try to find cheap replacements for Dumfries and Skriniar with his money. That's the realistic scenario. Pavard and Scalvini would cost at least 30m. They're not realistic.

Your suggestion could be possible if we had a zero net spend policy. But we don't. We need to make 60m profit next summer. A Bastoni sale would just allow us to have zero net spent from that moment. We would still have no money to spend.
 
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